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+On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 9:51 PM, <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-dev-request@mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia-dev-request@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<div id=":1jh">Hmm, have you missed that there will be no Cinnamon in Mageia repos?<br>
+Part of packagers &quot;job&quot; is to keep eye on the dev ml.</div></blockquote></div><br>Maybe I&#39;ll stay on for another day or so.� I&#39;ve been using Mageia/Mandriva for years,<br>and so I&#39;ll keep it on my disk for another two or three days.<br>
+<br>Let me tell you about my day.� I go to work, I work for 12 hours a day.� I come<br>home.� On a good day, I have maybe an hour or two to work on my hobby.� <br>I might have a few hours to work on weekends.� But I have a *job* and *kids*.<br>
+<br>I find coding relaxing.� I find packaging relaxing and educational.� I&#39;ve actually<br>learned a lot about rpm.� I&#39;ve also learned a lot about how cinnamon works.<br><br>But I have a *job*.� Here I&#39;m a volunteer.� I got cinnamon working for my own <br>
+amusement.� if I have to spend lots of time keeping track of e-mail discussions, <br>then I&#39;m just not going to have the time to do anything &quot;real.&quot;� I find coding *fun*.<br>I find office politics and taking orders *not fun*.<br>
+<br>And I&#39;ve been quiet, because I&#39;m a newbie.� I keep my mouth shut, and watch<br>what&#39;s going on before I say anything.� If I feel like I fit in, I stay.� If not, I don&#39;t.<br><br>I have a dozen or so packages in the queue.� I&#39;ve been working with the Fedora <br>
+to get a python to rpm conversion script working, and I have about a dozen<br>python packages that are ready to be uploaded.� I&#39;m interested in creating a first<br>rate platform for astronomy.� I&#39;ve got ds9 working.� I&#39;ve packaged glamor, and I&#39;ve<br>
+gotten an open source ati driver working for Radeonsi.� I want to start<br>packaging heavy duty astrophysics code on Mageia.<br><br>If you find this useful.� Then take it.� If not, I&#39;ll find somewhere else. Say thank you<br>
+and smile at me, and I&#39;m a sucker, and I&#39;ll keep doing it.<br><br>But remember I have a *job*.� If this starts feeling like *work* then there&#39;s no <br>reason for me to be here.� I&#39;ll put up with some politics if it means getting something <br>
+useful done in the end, and I&#39;ll spend a lot of time if I learn something, but my<br>time is precious, and I could have been spending the last hour trying to get some<br>more themes packaged rather than writing useless e-mail (and I hate e-mail,<br>
+I get enough of this non-sense at work).<br><br>I&#39;ve been using Mageia/Mandriva for years, so I&#39;ll wait a few days before wiping <br>my disk to see how people react.� I&#39;ll keep packaging and debugging stuff.� I<br>
+*will* work on cinnamon, because I think it&#39;s a cool desktop.� There is one major<br>bug, that I&#39;d like to help fix.� You can&#39;t tell me to stop working on cinnamon.<br><br>You can keep cinnamon out of the distribution, but that&#39;s up to you.....<br>
+<br>Also, in case someone wants to have a discussion rather than *ordering* me <br>to do something....� <br><br>I really don&#39;t think that cinnamon is ready for Mageia 3.� There are some pretty<br>major bugs in it, and it&#39;s not ready for prime time.� It would be useful to keep it<br>
+in the testing section, and then target it for Mageia 4.� I do think it would be a<br>good idea to at least start looking at alternatives to Gnome 3 since they are <br>self-destructing, and I&#39;ve been *extremely* impressed by cinnamon (minus two<br>
+annoying bugs which I&#39;m trying to fix).<br><br><br><br><br><br>