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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20121126/171e539d/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20121126/171e539d/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9422c97ab --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20121126/171e539d/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,13 @@ +If Mageia won't accept the work that I just did packaging cinnamon, then bye, <br>bye Mageia.� I've been working pretty closely with the Fedora people in getting<br>pyp2rpm working.�� Pyp2rpm just went 1.0.0 and there was a mageia module<br> +for it, but it looks like that someone else is going to have to maintain it.<br><br>Some parting words<br><br>1) You really need to do a better job communicating with new people.� I spent<br>several weeks just waiting for someone to contact me, and it's been a pain <br> +trying to in touch with the community.� <br><br>2) I ended up packaging cinnamon for my own amusement.� I've gotten it to<br>work quite nicely on my machine.� One thing that annoys me on in my day<br>job is spending more effort trying to get something done than to just do it.<br> +<br>3) Something that you have to realize about volunteers is that volunteers are<br>volunteers.� In my day job, I get paid a large amount of money so that I do<br>what the boss tells me to do.� Unless you have that sort of money, there is <br> +no reason for my to take orders from you.� You might be able to persuade me<br>to do something by being nice and flattery always works, but remember that<br>I'm a volunteer, and you aren't the only project I can spend my time on.<br> +<br>4) I like to program because it's fun.� I like packaging stuff because it's <br>interesting.� If you make it so that it isn't fun and you don't pay me $$$$,<br>then there is no reason to do it.� At work, I have to take orders.� Boss tells<br> +me to do something and I don't do it, I get fired and I lose my $$$$.� Unless<br>you are paying me, there's no reason why I have to listen to you.<br><br>5) One reason I wanted to package cinnamon is that the cinnamon people<br> +are *nice people*.� There is this annoying bug on my machine, but since they<br>are nice, I might just pull out the debugger and fix it.� The problem with not<br>being *nice* is that if you push away newbies, then you don't have people to <br> +work on these things.<br><br>6) The big reason I haven't posted before is that I like to code.� I hate politics.<br>I hate mailing list flames.� I hate discussions.� I just want to make things work<br>on my machine.� I'll endure politics, mailing list flames, long winded discussions<br> +if there is a reason for it.� Rather than spending 12 hours trying to discussion<br>whether to package cinnamon, I just rolled up my sleeves and I did it.� It's not <br>ready for "prime time" because there is an annoying bug involved with it, but I was<br> +planning on rolling up my sleeves and fixing that bug.<br><br>Anyway, gnome is in a death spiral<br><br>no volunteers -> more politics -> fewer volunteers -> even more politics<br><br>I've used Mageia long enough so that it would be a shame if it went into the <br> +same death spiral.� But it's not my problem.� I just want to have fun and<br>code.<br><br>Coding is fun.� Office politics isn't.� I'm looking for somewhere that I can <br>code and play without office politics.� I was hoping that Mageia was that<br> +place, but it looks like it isn't......<br><br><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20121126/171e539d/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20121126/171e539d/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9422c97ab --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20121126/171e539d/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,13 @@ +If Mageia won't accept the work that I just did packaging cinnamon, then bye, <br>bye Mageia.� I've been working pretty closely with the Fedora people in getting<br>pyp2rpm working.�� Pyp2rpm just went 1.0.0 and there was a mageia module<br> +for it, but it looks like that someone else is going to have to maintain it.<br><br>Some parting words<br><br>1) You really need to do a better job communicating with new people.� I spent<br>several weeks just waiting for someone to contact me, and it's been a pain <br> +trying to in touch with the community.� <br><br>2) I ended up packaging cinnamon for my own amusement.� I've gotten it to<br>work quite nicely on my machine.� One thing that annoys me on in my day<br>job is spending more effort trying to get something done than to just do it.<br> +<br>3) Something that you have to realize about volunteers is that volunteers are<br>volunteers.� In my day job, I get paid a large amount of money so that I do<br>what the boss tells me to do.� Unless you have that sort of money, there is <br> +no reason for my to take orders from you.� You might be able to persuade me<br>to do something by being nice and flattery always works, but remember that<br>I'm a volunteer, and you aren't the only project I can spend my time on.<br> +<br>4) I like to program because it's fun.� I like packaging stuff because it's <br>interesting.� If you make it so that it isn't fun and you don't pay me $$$$,<br>then there is no reason to do it.� At work, I have to take orders.� Boss tells<br> +me to do something and I don't do it, I get fired and I lose my $$$$.� Unless<br>you are paying me, there's no reason why I have to listen to you.<br><br>5) One reason I wanted to package cinnamon is that the cinnamon people<br> +are *nice people*.� There is this annoying bug on my machine, but since they<br>are nice, I might just pull out the debugger and fix it.� The problem with not<br>being *nice* is that if you push away newbies, then you don't have people to <br> +work on these things.<br><br>6) The big reason I haven't posted before is that I like to code.� I hate politics.<br>I hate mailing list flames.� I hate discussions.� I just want to make things work<br>on my machine.� I'll endure politics, mailing list flames, long winded discussions<br> +if there is a reason for it.� Rather than spending 12 hours trying to discussion<br>whether to package cinnamon, I just rolled up my sleeves and I did it.� It's not <br>ready for "prime time" because there is an annoying bug involved with it, but I was<br> +planning on rolling up my sleeves and fixing that bug.<br><br>Anyway, gnome is in a death spiral<br><br>no volunteers -> more politics -> fewer volunteers -> even more politics<br><br>I've used Mageia long enough so that it would be a shame if it went into the <br> +same death spiral.� But it's not my problem.� I just want to have fun and<br>code.<br><br>Coding is fun.� Office politics isn't.� I'm looking for somewhere that I can <br>code and play without office politics.� I was hoping that Mageia was that<br> +place, but it looks like it isn't......<br><br><br> |