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+<div class="gmail_quote">2011/11/24 Kamil Rytarowski <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:n54@gmx.com">n54@gmx.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">On 24.11.2011 00:36, andre999 wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Kamil Rytarowski a écrit :<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hello!<br>
+<br>
+As a maintainer of pastebin ( <a href="http://raphael.slinckx.net/files/" target="_blank">http://raphael.slinckx.net/<u></u>files/</a> )my proposition is to drop it, because:<br>
+- it&#39;s redundand for better&amp;newer&amp;more featured wgetpaste<br>
+- it doesn&#39;t seem to be updated upstream for years<br>
+<br>
+I can maintain it, but I would like to know that someone it really needs. I don&#39;t see any rational reason to ship it - wgetpaste fully supercedes it.<br>
+<br>
+In its place (or next to it) I&#39;ve imported susepaste. It&#39;s well supported upstream and also supports screenshot (of a single window or full-screen) paste feature.<br>
+<br>
+</blockquote>
+In general that sounds good.<br>
+<br>
+Being only a user of pastebins, I have some concerns about flexibility of the width.  Normally when using a pastebin, one wants to make reference to another window.  Having a pastebin with flexible width is a big plus.  (Like the old wiki.)<br>
+
+<br>
+The reference you give redirects to <a href="http://dpaste.com" target="_blank">dpaste.com</a>, which wastes width on the large left margin, as well as the fixed width of the body.<br>
+(<a href="http://dpaste.com" target="_blank">dpaste.com</a> is better than <a href="http://pastebin.com" target="_blank">pastebin.com</a>, which has a much larger fixed width.)<br>
+<br>
+A much better pastebin is Lodgit (<a href="http://paste.pocoo.org" target="_blank">paste.pocoo.org</a>), which has small left/right margins, and fully flexible width.<br>
+Another plus is a large number of file types.  (Conveniently ranged in alphabetical order.)<br>
+They list the software used for their site at <a href="http://paste.pocoo.org/about/" target="_blank">http://paste.pocoo.org/about/</a> (near the bottom of the page).<br>
+<br>
+</blockquote></div></div>
+Thank you for your feedback!<br>
+wgetpaste supports multiple pastebins, the result of the &quot;-S&quot; command is:<br>
+$ wgetpaste -S<br>
+Services supported: (case sensitive):<br>
+   Name:    | Url:<br>
+   =========|=================<br>
+    ca      | <a href="http://pastebin.ca/" target="_blank">http://pastebin.ca/</a><br>
+    codepad | <a href="http://codepad.org/" target="_blank">http://codepad.org/</a><br>
+    dpaste  | <a href="http://dpaste.com/" target="_blank">http://dpaste.com/</a><br>
+    osl     | <a href="http://pastebin.osuosl.org/" target="_blank">http://pastebin.osuosl.org/</a><br>
+   *pocoo   | <a href="http://paste.pocoo.org/" target="_blank">http://paste.pocoo.org/</a><br>
+<br>
+And pastebin supports <a href="http://en.pastebin.ca/" target="_blank">http://en.pastebin.ca/</a><div class="im"><br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+I don&#39;t know how that compares to wgetpaste or susepaste, but thought you might like to consider it.<br>
+<br>
+</blockquote></div>
+I&#39;m not sure Fedora Paste or openSUSE Paste are better than the previous ones, but I would ship them (and I will maintain them), because of the constant support from the upstream.<br>
+<br>
++ the handy screenshot feature from openSUSE!<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Regards :)<br>
+<br>
+</blockquote>
+<br>
+</blockquote></div>Now we need <a href="http://pastebin.mageia.org">pastebin.mageia.org</a> :)<br>
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+<div class="gmail_quote">2011/11/24 Kamil Rytarowski <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:n54@gmx.com">n54@gmx.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">On 24.11.2011 00:36, andre999 wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Kamil Rytarowski a écrit :<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hello!<br>
+<br>
+As a maintainer of pastebin ( <a href="http://raphael.slinckx.net/files/" target="_blank">http://raphael.slinckx.net/<u></u>files/</a> )my proposition is to drop it, because:<br>
+- it&#39;s redundand for better&amp;newer&amp;more featured wgetpaste<br>
+- it doesn&#39;t seem to be updated upstream for years<br>
+<br>
+I can maintain it, but I would like to know that someone it really needs. I don&#39;t see any rational reason to ship it - wgetpaste fully supercedes it.<br>
+<br>
+In its place (or next to it) I&#39;ve imported susepaste. It&#39;s well supported upstream and also supports screenshot (of a single window or full-screen) paste feature.<br>
+<br>
+</blockquote>
+In general that sounds good.<br>
+<br>
+Being only a user of pastebins, I have some concerns about flexibility of the width.  Normally when using a pastebin, one wants to make reference to another window.  Having a pastebin with flexible width is a big plus.  (Like the old wiki.)<br>
+
+<br>
+The reference you give redirects to <a href="http://dpaste.com" target="_blank">dpaste.com</a>, which wastes width on the large left margin, as well as the fixed width of the body.<br>
+(<a href="http://dpaste.com" target="_blank">dpaste.com</a> is better than <a href="http://pastebin.com" target="_blank">pastebin.com</a>, which has a much larger fixed width.)<br>
+<br>
+A much better pastebin is Lodgit (<a href="http://paste.pocoo.org" target="_blank">paste.pocoo.org</a>), which has small left/right margins, and fully flexible width.<br>
+Another plus is a large number of file types.  (Conveniently ranged in alphabetical order.)<br>
+They list the software used for their site at <a href="http://paste.pocoo.org/about/" target="_blank">http://paste.pocoo.org/about/</a> (near the bottom of the page).<br>
+<br>
+</blockquote></div></div>
+Thank you for your feedback!<br>
+wgetpaste supports multiple pastebins, the result of the &quot;-S&quot; command is:<br>
+$ wgetpaste -S<br>
+Services supported: (case sensitive):<br>
+   Name:    | Url:<br>
+   =========|=================<br>
+    ca      | <a href="http://pastebin.ca/" target="_blank">http://pastebin.ca/</a><br>
+    codepad | <a href="http://codepad.org/" target="_blank">http://codepad.org/</a><br>
+    dpaste  | <a href="http://dpaste.com/" target="_blank">http://dpaste.com/</a><br>
+    osl     | <a href="http://pastebin.osuosl.org/" target="_blank">http://pastebin.osuosl.org/</a><br>
+   *pocoo   | <a href="http://paste.pocoo.org/" target="_blank">http://paste.pocoo.org/</a><br>
+<br>
+And pastebin supports <a href="http://en.pastebin.ca/" target="_blank">http://en.pastebin.ca/</a><div class="im"><br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+I don&#39;t know how that compares to wgetpaste or susepaste, but thought you might like to consider it.<br>
+<br>
+</blockquote></div>
+I&#39;m not sure Fedora Paste or openSUSE Paste are better than the previous ones, but I would ship them (and I will maintain them), because of the constant support from the upstream.<br>
+<br>
++ the handy screenshot feature from openSUSE!<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Regards :)<br>
+<br>
+</blockquote>
+<br>
+</blockquote></div>Now we need <a href="http://pastebin.mageia.org">pastebin.mageia.org</a> :)<br>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ FYI:<br>
+ <br>
+ -------- Originele bericht --------
+ <table class="moz-email-headers-table" border="0" cellpadding="0"
+ cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Onderwerp:
+ </th>
+ <td>[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: [FOSDEM] Call for stands, devroom
+ talks and lightning talks</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Datum: </th>
+ <td>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 09:52:57 +0100</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Van: </th>
+ <td>Romain d'Alverny <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rda@mageia.org">&lt;rda@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Antwoord-naar:
+ </th>
+ <td>Mageia general discussions
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mageia-discuss@mageia.org">&lt;mageia-discuss@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Aan: </th>
+ <td>Mageia general discussions
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mageia-discuss@mageia.org">&lt;mageia-discuss@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <pre>Hi guys,
+
+FOSDEM is calling! (4-5 February, in Brussels, Belgium)
+
+And this will be the time:
+ - we meet Europe-wide (and more);
+ - we can handle a booth to demonstrate Mageia;
+ - lots of cool people and cool talks happen to happen;
+ - we hold our annual general assembly (with a moral and financial report);
+ - 1/3rd of the board is renewed - there are 6 board members, so that
+makes for 2 people to be elected among current Council members; see
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Org#Mageia_Board">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Org#Mageia_Board</a>
+ - council should be re-elected (that is, team leaders re-elected).
+
+So.
+ - who will be there? (I will)
+ - who would like to act there as a Mageia member? (booth, conference)
+ - what do we need?
+
+Romain
+
+---------- Message transf&eacute;r&eacute; ----------
+De&nbsp;: "Mattias &amp;apos;Tias&amp;apos; Guns" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mguns@fosdem.org">&lt;mguns@fosdem.org&gt;</a>
+Date&nbsp;: 16 nov. 2011 10:53
+Objet&nbsp;: [FOSDEM] Call for stands, devroom talks and lightning talks
+&Agrave;&nbsp;: "Fosdem Announce" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:fosdem@lists.fosdem.org">&lt;fosdem@lists.fosdem.org&gt;</a>
+
+Dear Hackers,
+
+We hereby invite any and all open source projects to participate in
+FOSDEM 2012 by manning a stand for the weekend, by giving a talk in a
+devroom or by giving a 15 minute talk in our lightning talk room.
+
+See <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://fosdem.org/2012/call-for-participation">http://fosdem.org/2012/call-for-participation</a>
+on how to submit proposals.
+
+
+* Manning a stand
+We offer open source projects a place for a stand in the hallways.
+Stands can be used to share information, demo software, sell
+merchandising, give away goodies and so forth.
+Stands allow projects to present themselves to the visitors in a more
+personal fashion.
+
+See <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://fosdem.org/2012/call-for-stands">http://fosdem.org/2012/call-for-stands</a> for more details
+
+
+* Talking in a devroom
+We will be hosting 25 (!) different devrooms, covering a broader
+spectrum of the open source landscape than any year before.
+
+The accepted devrooms are: Ada -- BSD licensed operating systems --
+Configuration and Systems Management -- Cross Desktop -- Distribution
+Miniconf -- Embedded -- Free Java -- Graph Processing -- Hardware
+Security and Cryptography -- JBoss.org -- Legal Issues -- LibreOffice
+-- Mono -- Mozilla -- Multiserver -- microkernel-based operating
+systems -- MySQL and Friends -- Open Mobile Linux -- Open Source Game
+Development -- Open Source Telephony -- Open Source Virtualization and
+Cloud -- Perl -- PostgreSQL -- Smalltalk -- World of GNUstep -- X.org
+and OpenICC
+
+See <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://fosdem.org/2012/call-for-participation">http://fosdem.org/2012/call-for-participation</a> for the list of
+announcements or contact <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:devrooms@fosdem.org">devrooms@fosdem.org</a> for a contact address.
+
+
+* Lightning talks
+We have a special lightning talk room for all remaining open source
+projects that do not fit in any of the devrooms.
+Lightning talks are short 15 minute focussed talks in which one person
+gets to present the project or an aspect of it.
+
+See <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://fosdem.org/2012/call-for-lightningtalks">http://fosdem.org/2012/call-for-lightningtalks</a> for more details.
+
+
+FOSDEM is organized by and for the community, non-commercial and
+highly developer-oriented. Its goal is to provide Free and Open Source
+developers a place to meet.
+Now is the time to become part of it.
+
+The FOSDEM organizers.
+_______________________________________________
+FOSDEM mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:FOSDEM@lists.fosdem.org">FOSDEM@lists.fosdem.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/fosdem">https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/fosdem</a>
+
+
+
+--
+Romain d'Alverny
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mageia.org/">http://mageia.org/</a> board &amp; council member
+
+</pre>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ FYI:<br>
+ <br>
+ -------- Originele bericht --------
+ <table class="moz-email-headers-table" border="0" cellpadding="0"
+ cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Onderwerp:
+ </th>
+ <td>[Mageia-discuss] Fwd: [FOSDEM] Call for stands, devroom
+ talks and lightning talks</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Datum: </th>
+ <td>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 09:52:57 +0100</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Van: </th>
+ <td>Romain d'Alverny <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rda@mageia.org">&lt;rda@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Antwoord-naar:
+ </th>
+ <td>Mageia general discussions
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mageia-discuss@mageia.org">&lt;mageia-discuss@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Aan: </th>
+ <td>Mageia general discussions
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mageia-discuss@mageia.org">&lt;mageia-discuss@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <pre>Hi guys,
+
+FOSDEM is calling! (4-5 February, in Brussels, Belgium)
+
+And this will be the time:
+ - we meet Europe-wide (and more);
+ - we can handle a booth to demonstrate Mageia;
+ - lots of cool people and cool talks happen to happen;
+ - we hold our annual general assembly (with a moral and financial report);
+ - 1/3rd of the board is renewed - there are 6 board members, so that
+makes for 2 people to be elected among current Council members; see
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Org#Mageia_Board">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Org#Mageia_Board</a>
+ - council should be re-elected (that is, team leaders re-elected).
+
+So.
+ - who will be there? (I will)
+ - who would like to act there as a Mageia member? (booth, conference)
+ - what do we need?
+
+Romain
+
+---------- Message transf&eacute;r&eacute; ----------
+De&nbsp;: "Mattias &amp;apos;Tias&amp;apos; Guns" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mguns@fosdem.org">&lt;mguns@fosdem.org&gt;</a>
+Date&nbsp;: 16 nov. 2011 10:53
+Objet&nbsp;: [FOSDEM] Call for stands, devroom talks and lightning talks
+&Agrave;&nbsp;: "Fosdem Announce" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:fosdem@lists.fosdem.org">&lt;fosdem@lists.fosdem.org&gt;</a>
+
+Dear Hackers,
+
+We hereby invite any and all open source projects to participate in
+FOSDEM 2012 by manning a stand for the weekend, by giving a talk in a
+devroom or by giving a 15 minute talk in our lightning talk room.
+
+See <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://fosdem.org/2012/call-for-participation">http://fosdem.org/2012/call-for-participation</a>
+on how to submit proposals.
+
+
+* Manning a stand
+We offer open source projects a place for a stand in the hallways.
+Stands can be used to share information, demo software, sell
+merchandising, give away goodies and so forth.
+Stands allow projects to present themselves to the visitors in a more
+personal fashion.
+
+See <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://fosdem.org/2012/call-for-stands">http://fosdem.org/2012/call-for-stands</a> for more details
+
+
+* Talking in a devroom
+We will be hosting 25 (!) different devrooms, covering a broader
+spectrum of the open source landscape than any year before.
+
+The accepted devrooms are: Ada -- BSD licensed operating systems --
+Configuration and Systems Management -- Cross Desktop -- Distribution
+Miniconf -- Embedded -- Free Java -- Graph Processing -- Hardware
+Security and Cryptography -- JBoss.org -- Legal Issues -- LibreOffice
+-- Mono -- Mozilla -- Multiserver -- microkernel-based operating
+systems -- MySQL and Friends -- Open Mobile Linux -- Open Source Game
+Development -- Open Source Telephony -- Open Source Virtualization and
+Cloud -- Perl -- PostgreSQL -- Smalltalk -- World of GNUstep -- X.org
+and OpenICC
+
+See <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://fosdem.org/2012/call-for-participation">http://fosdem.org/2012/call-for-participation</a> for the list of
+announcements or contact <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:devrooms@fosdem.org">devrooms@fosdem.org</a> for a contact address.
+
+
+* Lightning talks
+We have a special lightning talk room for all remaining open source
+projects that do not fit in any of the devrooms.
+Lightning talks are short 15 minute focussed talks in which one person
+gets to present the project or an aspect of it.
+
+See <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://fosdem.org/2012/call-for-lightningtalks">http://fosdem.org/2012/call-for-lightningtalks</a> for more details.
+
+
+FOSDEM is organized by and for the community, non-commercial and
+highly developer-oriented. Its goal is to provide Free and Open Source
+developers a place to meet.
+Now is the time to become part of it.
+
+The FOSDEM organizers.
+_______________________________________________
+FOSDEM mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:FOSDEM@lists.fosdem.org">FOSDEM@lists.fosdem.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/fosdem">https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/fosdem</a>
+
+
+
+--
+Romain d'Alverny
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mageia.org/">http://mageia.org/</a> board &amp; council member
+
+</pre>
+ </body>
+</html>