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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20111031/490a36ee/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20111031/490a36ee/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cb594fbc0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20111031/490a36ee/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,3 @@ +<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div>> Ok so there is a bug to fix in e17, what do you do ?</div><div><br></div><div>I report it to upstream team (on irc or on the ML)<br><br>> Or a security issue like the one I found ( and that should be fixed I<br>> hope soon, after reporting it 3 times upstream ).</div><div><br></div><div>Same way, report it upstream.</div><div>If upstream don't fix a bug (or security issue), this bug isn't fixed.</div><div>unless packager become a dev and fix the bug himself.</div><div><br>> if the answer is "we ship a newer snapshot who requires to rebuild<br>> everything regarding e17 because there is no guarantee of binary<br>> stability ( ie, ABI wise ) and that will introduce unwanted changes",<br>> then the problem is here. </div><div><br></div><div>I was thinking about something like this.<br><br>> Unless + the snapshot are bugfixes only ( and they are not ), that's a<br>> problem. That's already annoying to have to do it for chrome, firefox<br>> and thunderbird to not happily increase our burden with a whole desktop<br>> environnement.</div><div><br></div><div>Without stable release, and upstream team doing fix release. I don't know</div><div>how to do manage package.</div><div><br>> So far, I have asked the question 3 times. No one answered at all.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I hope it's done this time.<br><br>> Also, please do not top post. <br><br>Sorry, will try ...</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>So, yes, there isn't any way to manage bug/security issue in a very easy way</div><div>when upstream team don't provide stable tarball. So, what is the mageia </div><div>policy in this case ? no packaging at all ? "private" packaging + ?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>regards,</div><div>trem<br></div><div><br></div></div></body></html>
\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20111031/490a36ee/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20111031/490a36ee/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cb594fbc0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20111031/490a36ee/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,3 @@ +<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div>> Ok so there is a bug to fix in e17, what do you do ?</div><div><br></div><div>I report it to upstream team (on irc or on the ML)<br><br>> Or a security issue like the one I found ( and that should be fixed I<br>> hope soon, after reporting it 3 times upstream ).</div><div><br></div><div>Same way, report it upstream.</div><div>If upstream don't fix a bug (or security issue), this bug isn't fixed.</div><div>unless packager become a dev and fix the bug himself.</div><div><br>> if the answer is "we ship a newer snapshot who requires to rebuild<br>> everything regarding e17 because there is no guarantee of binary<br>> stability ( ie, ABI wise ) and that will introduce unwanted changes",<br>> then the problem is here. </div><div><br></div><div>I was thinking about something like this.<br><br>> Unless + the snapshot are bugfixes only ( and they are not ), that's a<br>> problem. That's already annoying to have to do it for chrome, firefox<br>> and thunderbird to not happily increase our burden with a whole desktop<br>> environnement.</div><div><br></div><div>Without stable release, and upstream team doing fix release. I don't know</div><div>how to do manage package.</div><div><br>> So far, I have asked the question 3 times. No one answered at all.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I hope it's done this time.<br><br>> Also, please do not top post. <br><br>Sorry, will try ...</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>So, yes, there isn't any way to manage bug/security issue in a very easy way</div><div>when upstream team don't provide stable tarball. So, what is the mageia </div><div>policy in this case ? no packaging at all ? "private" packaging + ?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>regards,</div><div>trem<br></div><div><br></div></div></body></html>
\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20111031/ab83a50c/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20111031/ab83a50c/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..61a07616d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20111031/ab83a50c/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,3 @@ +<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Hi all,</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>If you talk about this page : </span></div><div><span><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><a href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=updates_policy&s[]=update&s[]=policy">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=updates_policy&s[]=update&s[]=policy</a><br></span></div><div><br></div><div>I think that I'm the stupid guy. I don't really understand where is the issue with </div><div>this page and e17. </div><div><br></div><div>I understand that e17 don't provide "stable" release with tarball. But I never see</div><div>a "mageia forbid to package software without stable release".</div><div><br></div><div>And if yes, I mean, if it's what you want, how I can use E17 on mageia ?</div><div>(others than + completly old and obsolete tarball).</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>regards,</div><div>trem</div><div><br></div><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b> Michael Scherer <misc@zarb.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">À :</span></b> mageia-dev@mageia.org<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b> Lundi 31 Octobre 2011 12h03<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Objet :</span></b> Re: [Mageia-dev] Re : E17 packaging<br></font><br>Le samedi 29 octobre 2011 à 18:38 +0100, Philippe Reynes a écrit :<br>> Hi all,<br>> <br>> <br>> Another solution is to package e17 twice (like chromium):<br>> - an E17 -stable based stable tarball, as it was almost/already + done<br>> - an E17-unstable based on svn, as it's done now<br><br>I am a little bit stupid, but can you explain how it solve the issue of<br>not bypassing our update policy ?<br><br>-- <br>Michael Scherer<br><br><br><br></div></div></div></body></html>
\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20111031/ab83a50c/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20111031/ab83a50c/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..61a07616d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20111031/ab83a50c/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,3 @@ +<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Hi all,</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>If you talk about this page : </span></div><div><span><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><a href="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=updates_policy&s[]=update&s[]=policy">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=updates_policy&s[]=update&s[]=policy</a><br></span></div><div><br></div><div>I think that I'm the stupid guy. I don't really understand where is the issue with </div><div>this page and e17. </div><div><br></div><div>I understand that e17 don't provide "stable" release with tarball. But I never see</div><div>a "mageia forbid to package software without stable release".</div><div><br></div><div>And if yes, I mean, if it's what you want, how I can use E17 on mageia ?</div><div>(others than + completly old and obsolete tarball).</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>regards,</div><div>trem</div><div><br></div><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">De :</span></b> Michael Scherer <misc@zarb.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">À :</span></b> mageia-dev@mageia.org<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Envoyé le :</span></b> Lundi 31 Octobre 2011 12h03<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Objet :</span></b> Re: [Mageia-dev] Re : E17 packaging<br></font><br>Le samedi 29 octobre 2011 à 18:38 +0100, Philippe Reynes a écrit :<br>> Hi all,<br>> <br>> <br>> Another solution is to package e17 twice (like chromium):<br>> - an E17 -stable based stable tarball, as it was almost/already + done<br>> - an E17-unstable based on svn, as it's done now<br><br>I am a little bit stupid, but can you explain how it solve the issue of<br>not bypassing our update policy ?<br><br>-- <br>Michael Scherer<br><br><br><br></div></div></div></body></html>
\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20111031/b392240c/attachment-0001.bin b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20111031/b392240c/attachment-0001.bin new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cb9abbc80 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20111031/b392240c/attachment-0001.bin @@ -0,0 +1,144 @@ +##Bugs with a the keyword PATCH or Junior_Job (easy to resolve): +600;"The http user-interface to backuppc does not work";"backuppc" +2740;"chksession does not create the script for lxdm";"desktop-common-data" +672;"The installation of dkms PSB fails with recent kernels (2.6.38.*)";"dkms-psb-4.41.1-7.mga1.src.rpm" +1596;"help files not packaged for etherape";"etherape-0.9.10-1.mga1.src.rpm" +2427;"using -execdir in find does not change the current directory";"findutils-4.5.9-2.mga1" +2888;"Unbootable entry for Mageia in grub2 generated menu (kernel panic)";"grub" +1527;"""Mandriva Linux"" string in /etc/issue.net";"initscripts" +1560;"sysctl.conf refers to Mandriva Linux";"initscripts-9.21-12.mga1" +1622;"German ""man"" messages have badly formed umlauts";"man-1.6g-2.mga1.src.rpm" +1136;"numlock doesn't work correctly under X";"numlock-2.1.2-5.mga1.src.rpm" +1811;"Unable to resume from suspend on Lenovo Thinkpad T410 Laptop";"pm-utils" +1147;"can't connect ftp through firewall";"shorewall" +3045;"timezone needs updating";"timezone-2011g-1.mga1.src.rpm" +758;"Quickly make xdm less austere";"xinitrc" +2194;"Xfce: the numlock is not active";"xinitrc" +- +3035;"URLs in packages are invalid"; +3053;"some rpm provide doc files with restricted permissions (only root can read them)"; +1049;"autossh, change the mkrel (rpm of mdv is more great)";"autossh" +3199;"Browser's bookmarks show Mandriva Cooker";"desktop-common-data" +1745;"pcmanfm file cut and paste does not work when path contains non latin characters";"libfm-0.1.14-1.mga1.src.rpm" +1254;"Cannot login to certain installed desktops via lxdm";"lxdm-0.2.0-2.mga1" + + +##Package with more than 3 bugs: +2392, 3200, 3198;"chromium-browser" +2249, 2740, 3199, 2449, 1633;"desktop-common-data" +1867, 2650, 2644, 2653, 2627;"evolution" +1857, 1721, 2937;"f-spot" +942, 1483, 2628;"gdm" +416, 2888, 1759, 2121;"grub" +1245, 1527, 1560, 2614, 2707, 2803, 2916;"initscripts" +447, 999, 1082 2269, 2842 2994;"meta-task" +1508, 1590, 2927, 3212, 1568, 2218, 2374, 2775, 3042, 3133;"mgaonline" +1525, 375, 414, 2995, 2996;"mkinitrd" +3192, 2503, 2879, 2892;"pam" +1481, 2184, 1454, 2404, 2738;"system-config-printer +2834;"task-printing-scanning" +1303, 1712, 2951;"udev" +2190, 2192, 3057, 3224;"xfce4-session" +758, 2194, 1908;"xinitrc" + + +##Complete list +2722, 2794;"GConf2" +1445;"amule" +3110;"aumix" +1049;"autossh" +600;"backuppc" +3028;"bind" +3134;"bootsplash" +1503;"bug-buddy" +1920;"busybox" +2817;"cairo" +2392, 3200, 3198;"chromium-browser" +2920;"cpufreq" +1366;"compositing-wm-common" +2488;"dansguardian" +2777;"davfs2" +3118;"dblatex" +2438;"dbus" +2249, 2740, 3199, 2449, 1633;"desktop-common-data" +1537;"docbook-dtds" +1534, 1941;"drakguard" +1244;"epiphany" +1324;"etcskel" +1596;"etherape" +1867, 2650, 2644, 2653, 2627;"evolution" +1857, 1721, 2937;"f-spot" +2427;"findutils +1570;"fontconfig" +1291;"freetype2" +942, 1483, 2628;"gdm" +2405;"ghostscript" +1655, 2159;"gnome-panel" +1583;"gnome-session" +1834;"gpodder" +416, 2888, 1759, 2121;"grub" +1821;"gscan2pdf" +2634;"gsettings-desktop-schemas" +2841;"gutenprint" +3051;"hsqldb" +2391;"icewm" +1245, 1527, 1560, 2614, 2707, 2803, 2916;"initscripts" +1155;"iurt" +2685;"kchmviewer" +3178;"krb5" +1745;"libfm" +3081;"libfreetype6-devel" +3124;"libtool" +1938;"libxml" +1254, 1129;"lxdm" +3135;"lxrandr" +1622;"man" +2860;"mandi" +447, 999, 1082 2269, 2842 2994;"meta-task" +1508, 1590, 2927, 3212, 1568, 2218, 2374, 2775, 3042, 3133;"mgaonline" +2789;"midori" +1525, 375, 414, 2995, 2996;"mkinitrd" +441;"mount" +1608, 2198;"mplayer" +2761;"mysql-workbench" +2983, 2291;"net-tools" +865;"networkmanager" +665;"nss" +1476;"ntfsprogs" +2958;"ntp" +1136;"numlock" +1923;"nut" +3125;"openvpn" +3192, 2503, 2879, 2892;"pam" +3164;"password manager" +1394;"pcmanfm" +2288;"pd" +169;"plasma-applet-translatoid" +1811, 2506;"pm-utils" +2716;"qt3, fltk2" Request to remove qt3 and fltk2 from cauldron distrib +1777;"qutecom" +2156;"readline" +1438;"rhythmbox" +1887;"sane" +3185;"shutter" +1147;"shorewall" +947;"sound-juicer" +1336, 2731;"subversion" +1481, 2184, 1454, 2404, 2738;"system-config-printer +2834;"task-printing-scanning" +3045;"timezone-2011g" +2960;"transcode" +1303, 1712, 2951;"udev" +2118;"unknown. KDE screensaver" +2247;"userdrake" +615;"virt-manager" +235;"wine" +2232;"wxgtk2.8" +3003;"xen" +79;"xfce4-panel" +2190, 2192, 3057, 3224;"xfce4-session" +835, 3165;"xfwm4" +1509;"xguest" +758, 2194, 1908;"xinitrc" +2280;"xkeyboard-config" +2934, 1446;"xulrunner diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20111031/b392240c/attachment.bin b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20111031/b392240c/attachment.bin new file mode 100644 index 000000000..cb9abbc80 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20111031/b392240c/attachment.bin @@ -0,0 +1,144 @@ +##Bugs with a the keyword PATCH or Junior_Job (easy to resolve): +600;"The http user-interface to backuppc does not work";"backuppc" +2740;"chksession does not create the script for lxdm";"desktop-common-data" +672;"The installation of dkms PSB fails with recent kernels (2.6.38.*)";"dkms-psb-4.41.1-7.mga1.src.rpm" +1596;"help files not packaged for etherape";"etherape-0.9.10-1.mga1.src.rpm" +2427;"using -execdir in find does not change the current directory";"findutils-4.5.9-2.mga1" +2888;"Unbootable entry for Mageia in grub2 generated menu (kernel panic)";"grub" +1527;"""Mandriva Linux"" string in /etc/issue.net";"initscripts" +1560;"sysctl.conf refers to Mandriva Linux";"initscripts-9.21-12.mga1" +1622;"German ""man"" messages have badly formed umlauts";"man-1.6g-2.mga1.src.rpm" +1136;"numlock doesn't work correctly under X";"numlock-2.1.2-5.mga1.src.rpm" +1811;"Unable to resume from suspend on Lenovo Thinkpad T410 Laptop";"pm-utils" +1147;"can't connect ftp through firewall";"shorewall" +3045;"timezone needs updating";"timezone-2011g-1.mga1.src.rpm" +758;"Quickly make xdm less austere";"xinitrc" +2194;"Xfce: the numlock is not active";"xinitrc" +- +3035;"URLs in packages are invalid"; +3053;"some rpm provide doc files with restricted permissions (only root can read them)"; +1049;"autossh, change the mkrel (rpm of mdv is more great)";"autossh" +3199;"Browser's bookmarks show Mandriva Cooker";"desktop-common-data" +1745;"pcmanfm file cut and paste does not work when path contains non latin characters";"libfm-0.1.14-1.mga1.src.rpm" +1254;"Cannot login to certain installed desktops via lxdm";"lxdm-0.2.0-2.mga1" + + +##Package with more than 3 bugs: +2392, 3200, 3198;"chromium-browser" +2249, 2740, 3199, 2449, 1633;"desktop-common-data" +1867, 2650, 2644, 2653, 2627;"evolution" +1857, 1721, 2937;"f-spot" +942, 1483, 2628;"gdm" +416, 2888, 1759, 2121;"grub" +1245, 1527, 1560, 2614, 2707, 2803, 2916;"initscripts" +447, 999, 1082 2269, 2842 2994;"meta-task" +1508, 1590, 2927, 3212, 1568, 2218, 2374, 2775, 3042, 3133;"mgaonline" +1525, 375, 414, 2995, 2996;"mkinitrd" +3192, 2503, 2879, 2892;"pam" +1481, 2184, 1454, 2404, 2738;"system-config-printer +2834;"task-printing-scanning" +1303, 1712, 2951;"udev" +2190, 2192, 3057, 3224;"xfce4-session" +758, 2194, 1908;"xinitrc" + + +##Complete list +2722, 2794;"GConf2" +1445;"amule" +3110;"aumix" +1049;"autossh" +600;"backuppc" +3028;"bind" +3134;"bootsplash" +1503;"bug-buddy" +1920;"busybox" +2817;"cairo" +2392, 3200, 3198;"chromium-browser" +2920;"cpufreq" +1366;"compositing-wm-common" +2488;"dansguardian" +2777;"davfs2" +3118;"dblatex" +2438;"dbus" +2249, 2740, 3199, 2449, 1633;"desktop-common-data" +1537;"docbook-dtds" +1534, 1941;"drakguard" +1244;"epiphany" +1324;"etcskel" +1596;"etherape" +1867, 2650, 2644, 2653, 2627;"evolution" +1857, 1721, 2937;"f-spot" +2427;"findutils +1570;"fontconfig" +1291;"freetype2" +942, 1483, 2628;"gdm" +2405;"ghostscript" +1655, 2159;"gnome-panel" +1583;"gnome-session" +1834;"gpodder" +416, 2888, 1759, 2121;"grub" +1821;"gscan2pdf" +2634;"gsettings-desktop-schemas" +2841;"gutenprint" +3051;"hsqldb" +2391;"icewm" +1245, 1527, 1560, 2614, 2707, 2803, 2916;"initscripts" +1155;"iurt" +2685;"kchmviewer" +3178;"krb5" +1745;"libfm" +3081;"libfreetype6-devel" +3124;"libtool" +1938;"libxml" +1254, 1129;"lxdm" +3135;"lxrandr" +1622;"man" +2860;"mandi" +447, 999, 1082 2269, 2842 2994;"meta-task" +1508, 1590, 2927, 3212, 1568, 2218, 2374, 2775, 3042, 3133;"mgaonline" +2789;"midori" +1525, 375, 414, 2995, 2996;"mkinitrd" +441;"mount" +1608, 2198;"mplayer" +2761;"mysql-workbench" +2983, 2291;"net-tools" +865;"networkmanager" +665;"nss" +1476;"ntfsprogs" +2958;"ntp" +1136;"numlock" +1923;"nut" +3125;"openvpn" +3192, 2503, 2879, 2892;"pam" +3164;"password manager" +1394;"pcmanfm" +2288;"pd" +169;"plasma-applet-translatoid" +1811, 2506;"pm-utils" +2716;"qt3, fltk2" Request to remove qt3 and fltk2 from cauldron distrib +1777;"qutecom" +2156;"readline" +1438;"rhythmbox" +1887;"sane" +3185;"shutter" +1147;"shorewall" +947;"sound-juicer" +1336, 2731;"subversion" +1481, 2184, 1454, 2404, 2738;"system-config-printer +2834;"task-printing-scanning" +3045;"timezone-2011g" +2960;"transcode" +1303, 1712, 2951;"udev" +2118;"unknown. KDE screensaver" +2247;"userdrake" +615;"virt-manager" +235;"wine" +2232;"wxgtk2.8" +3003;"xen" +79;"xfce4-panel" +2190, 2192, 3057, 3224;"xfce4-session" +835, 3165;"xfwm4" +1509;"xguest" +758, 2194, 1908;"xinitrc" +2280;"xkeyboard-config" +2934, 1446;"xulrunner |