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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/7/4 Thomas Spuhler <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:thomas@btspuhler.com">thomas@btspuhler.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div><div></div><div class="h5">On Monday, July 04, 2011 05:10:24 am Radu-Cristian FOTESCU wrote:Same here, after installing ntrack, logging out and loggin in tagain the kde4</div></div>
+cpu sage went to 0 = zero<br>
+--<br>
+<font color="#888888">Thomas<br></font></blockquote><div><br></div><div>dito here 64-bit system</div><div><br></div><div>well done :-)</div><div><br></div><div>Magnus </div></div><br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/7/4 Thomas Spuhler <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:thomas@btspuhler.com">thomas@btspuhler.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div><div></div><div class="h5">On Monday, July 04, 2011 05:10:24 am Radu-Cristian FOTESCU wrote:Same here, after installing ntrack, logging out and loggin in tagain the kde4</div></div>
+cpu sage went to 0 = zero<br>
+--<br>
+<font color="#888888">Thomas<br></font></blockquote><div><br></div><div>dito here 64-bit system</div><div><br></div><div>well done :-)</div><div><br></div><div>Magnus </div></div><br>
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+<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><div class="yui_3_2_0_14_130977649849057" style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div class="yui_3_2_0_14_130977649849059" style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;"></span></b></font>Not so fast! :(<br><br>It's nice that you are happy. But since last updates my windows do not<br>have any decorations (no border, no title bar, no chance to<br>close/minimize/maximize), konsole window does not get focus at all,<br>after reboot I see all decorations for a split second, then they<br>vanish from the screen, only the windows stay. Then after 10 seconds<br>the complete task bar of KDE
+ vanishes, such keybindings like Alt+F2 or<br>Ctrl+TAB do not work at all, etc.<br>Total failure at the moment. xsession_errors shows lots of errors, I<br>can not distinguish which is related.<br><br><br></div></div></blockquote>OUCH! wobo, the gods don't love you!</div><div>However, by no means can this be related to ntrack!</div><div><br></div><div>I have never encountered such a syndrome in KDE4, only in XFCE, but this can't be related.</div><div>Using a different user acct helps or it doesn't help?</div><div><br></div><div>R-C aka beranger</div><div><br><div class="yui_3_2_0_14_130977649849057" style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div class="yui_3_2_0_14_130977649849059" style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div></div></div></div></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><div class="yui_3_2_0_14_130977649849057" style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div class="yui_3_2_0_14_130977649849059" style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;"></span></b></font>Not so fast! :(<br><br>It's nice that you are happy. But since last updates my windows do not<br>have any decorations (no border, no title bar, no chance to<br>close/minimize/maximize), konsole window does not get focus at all,<br>after reboot I see all decorations for a split second, then they<br>vanish from the screen, only the windows stay. Then after 10 seconds<br>the complete task bar of KDE
+ vanishes, such keybindings like Alt+F2 or<br>Ctrl+TAB do not work at all, etc.<br>Total failure at the moment. xsession_errors shows lots of errors, I<br>can not distinguish which is related.<br><br><br></div></div></blockquote>OUCH! wobo, the gods don't love you!</div><div>However, by no means can this be related to ntrack!</div><div><br></div><div>I have never encountered such a syndrome in KDE4, only in XFCE, but this can't be related.</div><div>Using a different user acct helps or it doesn't help?</div><div><br></div><div>R-C aka beranger</div><div><br><div class="yui_3_2_0_14_130977649849057" style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div class="yui_3_2_0_14_130977649849059" style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div></div></div></div></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 16:57, Maarten Vanraes <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:maarten.vanraes@gmail.com">maarten.vanraes@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+
+Op maandag 04 juli 2011 20:31:41 schreef Dexter Morgan:<br>
+<div><div></div><div class="h5">&gt; On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Maarten Vanraes<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:maarten.vanraes@gmail.com">maarten.vanraes@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; &gt; But skype was available for PWP, which i have.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; read again what misc wrote :<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; - a package was present in Mandriva 2010.1/2 ( and only in Mandriva, not<br>
+&gt; in 3rd party repository, not cooker )<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; skype wasn&#39;t in main nor contrib<br>
+<br>
+</div></div>yes, again...<br>
+<br>
+it was in PWP (ie: the powerpack version? which _IS_ from mandriva? which had<br>
+a _restricted_ repository? _not_ 3rd party???<br>
+<br>
+i don&#39;t see where i&#39;m misreading anything here...<br>
+</blockquote></div><br>Perhaps Anne could clarify it better than I, but I think that you are misreading the part that Powerpack is/was part of Mandriva distribution. Powerpack media is *not* part of Mandriva distribution, it is a separate 3rd-party media (which happens to come from same company, but it is not part of Mandriva distribution), with access allowed only to paying customers, which is not shared with the Mandriva distribution.<br>
+
+<br>-- <br>Eugeni Dodonov<br><a href="http://eugeni.dodonov.net/" target="_blank">http://eugeni.dodonov.net/</a><br>
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+<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 16:57, Maarten Vanraes <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:maarten.vanraes@gmail.com">maarten.vanraes@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+
+Op maandag 04 juli 2011 20:31:41 schreef Dexter Morgan:<br>
+<div><div></div><div class="h5">&gt; On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Maarten Vanraes<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:maarten.vanraes@gmail.com">maarten.vanraes@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; &gt; But skype was available for PWP, which i have.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; read again what misc wrote :<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; - a package was present in Mandriva 2010.1/2 ( and only in Mandriva, not<br>
+&gt; in 3rd party repository, not cooker )<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; skype wasn&#39;t in main nor contrib<br>
+<br>
+</div></div>yes, again...<br>
+<br>
+it was in PWP (ie: the powerpack version? which _IS_ from mandriva? which had<br>
+a _restricted_ repository? _not_ 3rd party???<br>
+<br>
+i don&#39;t see where i&#39;m misreading anything here...<br>
+</blockquote></div><br>Perhaps Anne could clarify it better than I, but I think that you are misreading the part that Powerpack is/was part of Mandriva distribution. Powerpack media is *not* part of Mandriva distribution, it is a separate 3rd-party media (which happens to come from same company, but it is not part of Mandriva distribution), with access allowed only to paying customers, which is not shared with the Mandriva distribution.<br>
+
+<br>-- <br>Eugeni Dodonov<br><a href="http://eugeni.dodonov.net/" target="_blank">http://eugeni.dodonov.net/</a><br>