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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/50b25b5c/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/50b25b5c/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a01c34e23 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/50b25b5c/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,128 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> +<html> + <head> + <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" + http-equiv="Content-Type"> + </head> + <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> + Le 16/06/2011 19:57, lebarhon a écrit : + <blockquote cite="mid:4DFA4420.5090709@free.fr" type="cite"> + <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" + http-equiv="Content-Type"> + by <strong><a moz-do-not-send="true" +href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=359">pmithrandir</a></strong> + » Jun 13th, '11, 20:21 + <blockquote cite="mid:4DFA43A9.1080003@free.fr" type="cite"> + <div class="content">On my side, I think mageia should do a + "mix" of others idea.<br> + <br> + I would say : <br> + - A release every year.<br> + - During this year, a way to update some popular stuff + (firefox, chrome, libreoffice...)<br> + - During this year also a way to add some new package if + needed or if there is some instant success for a new software.<br> + <br> + Every 3 years, the release is LTS and that mean it would be + maintain for 4 years.<br> + <br> + So at the same time, mageia would be in 3 mode : <br> + - The LTS<br> + - The common release<br> + - The cauldron.<br> + <br> + With that kind of stuff, you should have no more than one + release for public at a time, and just one LTS.<br> + If you update main software(we could define a list of no more + than 20 software) people who are crasy about new function, or + developper who need tham to develop new stuff would be happy.<br> + <br> + BTW : I think mailing list are totally outdated and that + mageia should have a special section in this forum for these + discussion, or maybe another forum.<br> + It's totally impossible for people who want to participate + sometimes to follow you emails everydays. It's much faster to + read some topic on a forum than dozens emails. And your final + user should be able to know what happen easily. It would be a + big + in front of others distributions.</div> + </blockquote> + by <strong><a moz-do-not-send="true" +href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=448">claire</a></strong> + » Jun 16th, '11, 14:27 + <div class="content"> + <blockquote> + <div><cite>pmithrandir wrote:</cite>On my side, I think mageia + should do a "mix" of others idea.<br> + <br> + I would say : <br> + - A release every year.<br> + - During this year, a way to update some popular stuff + (firefox, chrome, libreoffice...)<br> + - During this year also a way to add some new package if + needed or if there is some instant success for a new + software.<br> + <br> + Every 3 years, the release is LTS and that mean it would be + maintain for 4 years.<br> + <br> + So at the same time, mageia would be in 3 mode : <br> + - The LTS<br> + - The common release<br> + - The cauldron.<br> + </div> + </blockquote> + <br> + <br> + I completely agree with this. There is no real need to rush + releases as long as new versions are easily available. I know + backports repo is available but its not very user friendly. As + an example, the newer versions of Openshot video editor have a + very nice feature of being able to do animated titles. To be + able to use them you need Blender 2.5. Whilst Mageia includes + Openshot 1.3.1 (which errors with missing plugins btw) which at + time of writing is current it still has Blender 2.49b.<br> + <br> + It would be useful if there were a nice user friendly way to + upgrade Blender when it is backported. Something to let ordinary + users know a newer version is available and a simple click to + upgrade it.<br> + <br> + LTS releases in Ubuntu IMHO are a great idea and one which would + add value to mageia as a potential server/business OS where + stability over time is crucial.<br> + <br> + I dont think Joe Bloggs really cares about a 6 monthly + distribution upgrade, only that new versions of the software + they use are easily obtainable in the mean time and won't break + the distribution upgrade when it comes around.</div> + </blockquote> + by <strong><a +href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=468">roadrunner</a></strong> + » Jun 16th, '11, 15:35 + <div class="content"> + <blockquote> + <div><cite>claire wrote:</cite> + <blockquote> + <div><cite>pmithrandir wrote:</cite>I dont think Joe Bloggs + really cares about a 6 monthly distribution upgrade, only + that new versions of the software they use are easily + obtainable in the mean time and won't break the + distribution upgrade when it comes around.</div> + </blockquote> + </div> + </blockquote> + Speaking as a typical "Joe Bloggs", all I'm interested in is + keeping my applications up to date with the occasional + distribution upgrade. I'm not interested in regular release cycles + because I feel that this leads to "rush-jobs", which in turn, + leads to bugs galore. I'm more interested in a solid reliable + distribution upgrade on the "it'll be ready when it's ready" + basis.<br> + <br> + .\\artin</div> + <div id="sig3679" class="signature"><span style="font-style: + italic;">- Mageia 1 32-bit - KDE SC 4.6.3 -<br> + - AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ CPU -<br> + - 4Gb RAM - nVidia 8500GT GPU -</span></div> + </body> +</html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/50b25b5c/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/50b25b5c/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a01c34e23 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/50b25b5c/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,128 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> +<html> + <head> + <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" + http-equiv="Content-Type"> + </head> + <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> + Le 16/06/2011 19:57, lebarhon a écrit : + <blockquote cite="mid:4DFA4420.5090709@free.fr" type="cite"> + <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" + http-equiv="Content-Type"> + by <strong><a moz-do-not-send="true" +href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=359">pmithrandir</a></strong> + » Jun 13th, '11, 20:21 + <blockquote cite="mid:4DFA43A9.1080003@free.fr" type="cite"> + <div class="content">On my side, I think mageia should do a + "mix" of others idea.<br> + <br> + I would say : <br> + - A release every year.<br> + - During this year, a way to update some popular stuff + (firefox, chrome, libreoffice...)<br> + - During this year also a way to add some new package if + needed or if there is some instant success for a new software.<br> + <br> + Every 3 years, the release is LTS and that mean it would be + maintain for 4 years.<br> + <br> + So at the same time, mageia would be in 3 mode : <br> + - The LTS<br> + - The common release<br> + - The cauldron.<br> + <br> + With that kind of stuff, you should have no more than one + release for public at a time, and just one LTS.<br> + If you update main software(we could define a list of no more + than 20 software) people who are crasy about new function, or + developper who need tham to develop new stuff would be happy.<br> + <br> + BTW : I think mailing list are totally outdated and that + mageia should have a special section in this forum for these + discussion, or maybe another forum.<br> + It's totally impossible for people who want to participate + sometimes to follow you emails everydays. It's much faster to + read some topic on a forum than dozens emails. And your final + user should be able to know what happen easily. It would be a + big + in front of others distributions.</div> + </blockquote> + by <strong><a moz-do-not-send="true" +href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=448">claire</a></strong> + » Jun 16th, '11, 14:27 + <div class="content"> + <blockquote> + <div><cite>pmithrandir wrote:</cite>On my side, I think mageia + should do a "mix" of others idea.<br> + <br> + I would say : <br> + - A release every year.<br> + - During this year, a way to update some popular stuff + (firefox, chrome, libreoffice...)<br> + - During this year also a way to add some new package if + needed or if there is some instant success for a new + software.<br> + <br> + Every 3 years, the release is LTS and that mean it would be + maintain for 4 years.<br> + <br> + So at the same time, mageia would be in 3 mode : <br> + - The LTS<br> + - The common release<br> + - The cauldron.<br> + </div> + </blockquote> + <br> + <br> + I completely agree with this. There is no real need to rush + releases as long as new versions are easily available. I know + backports repo is available but its not very user friendly. As + an example, the newer versions of Openshot video editor have a + very nice feature of being able to do animated titles. To be + able to use them you need Blender 2.5. Whilst Mageia includes + Openshot 1.3.1 (which errors with missing plugins btw) which at + time of writing is current it still has Blender 2.49b.<br> + <br> + It would be useful if there were a nice user friendly way to + upgrade Blender when it is backported. Something to let ordinary + users know a newer version is available and a simple click to + upgrade it.<br> + <br> + LTS releases in Ubuntu IMHO are a great idea and one which would + add value to mageia as a potential server/business OS where + stability over time is crucial.<br> + <br> + I dont think Joe Bloggs really cares about a 6 monthly + distribution upgrade, only that new versions of the software + they use are easily obtainable in the mean time and won't break + the distribution upgrade when it comes around.</div> + </blockquote> + by <strong><a +href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=468">roadrunner</a></strong> + » Jun 16th, '11, 15:35 + <div class="content"> + <blockquote> + <div><cite>claire wrote:</cite> + <blockquote> + <div><cite>pmithrandir wrote:</cite>I dont think Joe Bloggs + really cares about a 6 monthly distribution upgrade, only + that new versions of the software they use are easily + obtainable in the mean time and won't break the + distribution upgrade when it comes around.</div> + </blockquote> + </div> + </blockquote> + Speaking as a typical "Joe Bloggs", all I'm interested in is + keeping my applications up to date with the occasional + distribution upgrade. I'm not interested in regular release cycles + because I feel that this leads to "rush-jobs", which in turn, + leads to bugs galore. I'm more interested in a solid reliable + distribution upgrade on the "it'll be ready when it's ready" + basis.<br> + <br> + .\\artin</div> + <div id="sig3679" class="signature"><span style="font-style: + italic;">- Mageia 1 32-bit - KDE SC 4.6.3 -<br> + - AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ CPU -<br> + - 4Gb RAM - nVidia 8500GT GPU -</span></div> + </body> +</html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/529b2dc1/attachment-0001.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/529b2dc1/attachment-0001.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..646e93be5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/529b2dc1/attachment-0001.asc @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEABECAAYFAk36AssACgkQqEs9DA4DquA1bwCdEPH9rnYjjFMfkEltXHYXj+JR ++98An1y/xkAqt58HzwgBoMxjC2c1EnCl +=7jQy +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/529b2dc1/attachment.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/529b2dc1/attachment.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..646e93be5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/529b2dc1/attachment.asc @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEABECAAYFAk36AssACgkQqEs9DA4DquA1bwCdEPH9rnYjjFMfkEltXHYXj+JR ++98An1y/xkAqt58HzwgBoMxjC2c1EnCl +=7jQy +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5663f737/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5663f737/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..92d113d5f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5663f737/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> +<html> + <head> + <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" + http-equiv="Content-Type"> + </head> + <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> + by <strong><a moz-do-not-send="true" +href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=359">pmithrandir</a></strong> + » Jun 13th, '11, 20:21 + <blockquote cite="mid:4DFA43A9.1080003@free.fr" type="cite"> + <div class="content">On my side, I think mageia should do a "mix" + of others idea.<br> + <br> + I would say : <br> + - A release every year.<br> + - During this year, a way to update some popular stuff (firefox, + chrome, libreoffice...)<br> + - During this year also a way to add some new package if needed + or if there is some instant success for a new software.<br> + <br> + Every 3 years, the release is LTS and that mean it would be + maintain for 4 years.<br> + <br> + So at the same time, mageia would be in 3 mode : <br> + - The LTS<br> + - The common release<br> + - The cauldron.<br> + <br> + With that kind of stuff, you should have no more than one + release for public at a time, and just one LTS.<br> + If you update main software(we could define a list of no more + than 20 software) people who are crasy about new function, or + developper who need tham to develop new stuff would be happy.<br> + <br> + BTW : I think mailing list are totally outdated and that mageia + should have a special section in this forum for these + discussion, or maybe another forum.<br> + It's totally impossible for people who want to participate + sometimes to follow you emails everydays. It's much faster to + read some topic on a forum than dozens emails. And your final + user should be able to know what happen easily. It would be a + big + in front of others distributions.</div> + </blockquote> + by <strong><a +href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=448">claire</a></strong> + » Jun 16th, '11, 14:27 + <div class="content"> + <blockquote> + <div><cite>pmithrandir wrote:</cite>On my side, I think mageia + should do a "mix" of others idea.<br> + <br> + I would say : <br> + - A release every year.<br> + - During this year, a way to update some popular stuff + (firefox, chrome, libreoffice...)<br> + - During this year also a way to add some new package if + needed or if there is some instant success for a new software.<br> + <br> + Every 3 years, the release is LTS and that mean it would be + maintain for 4 years.<br> + <br> + So at the same time, mageia would be in 3 mode : <br> + - The LTS<br> + - The common release<br> + - The cauldron.<br> + </div> + </blockquote> + <br> + <br> + I completely agree with this. There is no real need to rush + releases as long as new versions are easily available. I know + backports repo is available but its not very user friendly. As an + example, the newer versions of Openshot video editor have a very + nice feature of being able to do animated titles. To be able to + use them you need Blender 2.5. Whilst Mageia includes Openshot + 1.3.1 (which errors with missing plugins btw) which at time of + writing is current it still has Blender 2.49b.<br> + <br> + It would be useful if there were a nice user friendly way to + upgrade Blender when it is backported. Something to let ordinary + users know a newer version is available and a simple click to + upgrade it.<br> + <br> + LTS releases in Ubuntu IMHO are a great idea and one which would + add value to mageia as a potential server/business OS where + stability over time is crucial.<br> + <br> + I dont think Joe Bloggs really cares about a 6 monthly + distribution upgrade, only that new versions of the software they + use are easily obtainable in the mean time and won't break the + distribution upgrade when it comes around.</div> + </body> +</html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5663f737/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5663f737/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..92d113d5f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5663f737/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,94 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> +<html> + <head> + <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" + http-equiv="Content-Type"> + </head> + <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> + by <strong><a moz-do-not-send="true" +href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=359">pmithrandir</a></strong> + » Jun 13th, '11, 20:21 + <blockquote cite="mid:4DFA43A9.1080003@free.fr" type="cite"> + <div class="content">On my side, I think mageia should do a "mix" + of others idea.<br> + <br> + I would say : <br> + - A release every year.<br> + - During this year, a way to update some popular stuff (firefox, + chrome, libreoffice...)<br> + - During this year also a way to add some new package if needed + or if there is some instant success for a new software.<br> + <br> + Every 3 years, the release is LTS and that mean it would be + maintain for 4 years.<br> + <br> + So at the same time, mageia would be in 3 mode : <br> + - The LTS<br> + - The common release<br> + - The cauldron.<br> + <br> + With that kind of stuff, you should have no more than one + release for public at a time, and just one LTS.<br> + If you update main software(we could define a list of no more + than 20 software) people who are crasy about new function, or + developper who need tham to develop new stuff would be happy.<br> + <br> + BTW : I think mailing list are totally outdated and that mageia + should have a special section in this forum for these + discussion, or maybe another forum.<br> + It's totally impossible for people who want to participate + sometimes to follow you emails everydays. It's much faster to + read some topic on a forum than dozens emails. And your final + user should be able to know what happen easily. It would be a + big + in front of others distributions.</div> + </blockquote> + by <strong><a +href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=448">claire</a></strong> + » Jun 16th, '11, 14:27 + <div class="content"> + <blockquote> + <div><cite>pmithrandir wrote:</cite>On my side, I think mageia + should do a "mix" of others idea.<br> + <br> + I would say : <br> + - A release every year.<br> + - During this year, a way to update some popular stuff + (firefox, chrome, libreoffice...)<br> + - During this year also a way to add some new package if + needed or if there is some instant success for a new software.<br> + <br> + Every 3 years, the release is LTS and that mean it would be + maintain for 4 years.<br> + <br> + So at the same time, mageia would be in 3 mode : <br> + - The LTS<br> + - The common release<br> + - The cauldron.<br> + </div> + </blockquote> + <br> + <br> + I completely agree with this. There is no real need to rush + releases as long as new versions are easily available. I know + backports repo is available but its not very user friendly. As an + example, the newer versions of Openshot video editor have a very + nice feature of being able to do animated titles. To be able to + use them you need Blender 2.5. Whilst Mageia includes Openshot + 1.3.1 (which errors with missing plugins btw) which at time of + writing is current it still has Blender 2.49b.<br> + <br> + It would be useful if there were a nice user friendly way to + upgrade Blender when it is backported. Something to let ordinary + users know a newer version is available and a simple click to + upgrade it.<br> + <br> + LTS releases in Ubuntu IMHO are a great idea and one which would + add value to mageia as a potential server/business OS where + stability over time is crucial.<br> + <br> + I dont think Joe Bloggs really cares about a 6 monthly + distribution upgrade, only that new versions of the software they + use are easily obtainable in the mean time and won't break the + distribution upgrade when it comes around.</div> + </body> +</html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5bcc37a5/attachment-0001.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5bcc37a5/attachment-0001.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4dc4ec528 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5bcc37a5/attachment-0001.asc @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEABECAAYFAk355PUACgkQqEs9DA4DquCOwgCggaDHKD87LKnc7aSMTvz0OJsG +ha4AoIJ1kn/UJgBhQVXtUWeUGgaCkhvU +=FI79 +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5bcc37a5/attachment.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5bcc37a5/attachment.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4dc4ec528 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5bcc37a5/attachment.asc @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEABECAAYFAk355PUACgkQqEs9DA4DquCOwgCggaDHKD87LKnc7aSMTvz0OJsG +ha4AoIJ1kn/UJgBhQVXtUWeUGgaCkhvU +=FI79 +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5e3bb9b0/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5e3bb9b0/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c5cc86281 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5e3bb9b0/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,36 @@ +<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Marianne Lombard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marianne@tuxette.fr">marianne@tuxette.fr</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +Le 16/06/2011 19:16, José Jorge a écrit :<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +Le jeudi 16 juin 2011 12:39:49, Michael Scherer a écrit :<br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +So I think we can find a better system for proposing software that<br> +grouping together in some rpm that pull everything.<br> +</blockquote> +You mean something like Ubuntu's "logithèque"? I agree, but that's lots of<br> +work. A task package by my view is used this way :<br> +<br> +- hi I discover linux, is there any education soft?<br> +- install task-edu, and try them.<br> +<br> +I always do that for newcomers<br> +<br> +José<br> +</blockquote></div></div> +I think a web page (or a group of ) will be better<br> +We can present the software, explain how to install, etc<br> +<br> +The need are very different between a 4 or 5 years child (who will love Gcompris or other similar programm) and 10-12 years, very fond of stargazing, who will ask for stellarium or marble<br> +<br> +My 2 cents<br> +<br> +Jehane<br><font color="#888888"> +<br> +<br> +<br> +-- <br> +Marianne Lombard (Jehane)<br> +Mageia User - Mageia french translation team<br> +Inside every fat girl, there is a thin girl waiting to get out (and a lot of chocolate) - Terry Pratchett<br> +<br> +</font></blockquote></div><br>A Live CD which will provide all of this programs would be nice too. And we will need a little bit of <span id="result_box" class="short_text" lang="en"><span title="Click for alternate translations" class="hps">advertisement to find new people and even children using this programs.<br clear="all"> +</span></span><br>-- <br>Mit freundlichen Grüßen<br><br>Greetings<br><br>Daniel Kreuter<br><br><br><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5e3bb9b0/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5e3bb9b0/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c5cc86281 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/5e3bb9b0/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,36 @@ +<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Marianne Lombard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marianne@tuxette.fr">marianne@tuxette.fr</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +Le 16/06/2011 19:16, José Jorge a écrit :<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +Le jeudi 16 juin 2011 12:39:49, Michael Scherer a écrit :<br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +So I think we can find a better system for proposing software that<br> +grouping together in some rpm that pull everything.<br> +</blockquote> +You mean something like Ubuntu's "logithèque"? I agree, but that's lots of<br> +work. A task package by my view is used this way :<br> +<br> +- hi I discover linux, is there any education soft?<br> +- install task-edu, and try them.<br> +<br> +I always do that for newcomers<br> +<br> +José<br> +</blockquote></div></div> +I think a web page (or a group of ) will be better<br> +We can present the software, explain how to install, etc<br> +<br> +The need are very different between a 4 or 5 years child (who will love Gcompris or other similar programm) and 10-12 years, very fond of stargazing, who will ask for stellarium or marble<br> +<br> +My 2 cents<br> +<br> +Jehane<br><font color="#888888"> +<br> +<br> +<br> +-- <br> +Marianne Lombard (Jehane)<br> +Mageia User - Mageia french translation team<br> +Inside every fat girl, there is a thin girl waiting to get out (and a lot of chocolate) - Terry Pratchett<br> +<br> +</font></blockquote></div><br>A Live CD which will provide all of this programs would be nice too. And we will need a little bit of <span id="result_box" class="short_text" lang="en"><span title="Click for alternate translations" class="hps">advertisement to find new people and even children using this programs.<br clear="all"> +</span></span><br>-- <br>Mit freundlichen Grüßen<br><br>Greetings<br><br>Daniel Kreuter<br><br><br><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/693b2856/attachment-0001.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/693b2856/attachment-0001.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1408e6880 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/693b2856/attachment-0001.asc @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEABECAAYFAk35yxoACgkQqEs9DA4DquASNQCgqeZ/lNNCAOnvQdAkv/Roq5XG +x4IAn1wkNHZ21KZJ8szgZ7INT/n8fimB +=yY28 +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/693b2856/attachment.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/693b2856/attachment.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..1408e6880 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/693b2856/attachment.asc @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEABECAAYFAk35yxoACgkQqEs9DA4DquASNQCgqeZ/lNNCAOnvQdAkv/Roq5XG +x4IAn1wkNHZ21KZJ8szgZ7INT/n8fimB +=yY28 +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/98096292/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/98096292/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..015194c0c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/98096292/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,12 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/6/16 lebarhon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lebarhon@free.fr">lebarhon@free.fr</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> + + + + + + <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"><div><div></div><div class="h5">It would be useful if there were a nice user friendly way to + upgrade Blender when it is backported. Something to let ordinary + users know a newer version is available and a simple click to + upgrade it.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Look to Mageia App DB (in testing)</div><div>There is growing a good interface.<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></div> +<div><br></div><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><a href="http://88.191.121.20/madb/mageia/index.php/rpm/list/distrelease/2/application/0/arch/2/source/0/listtype/updates_testing/page/1">http://88.191.121.20/madb/mageia/index.php/rpm/list/distrelease/2/application/0/arch/2/source/0/listtype/updates_testing/page/1</a></div> +<div>The link shows the update soon coming.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/98096292/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/98096292/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..015194c0c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/98096292/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,12 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/6/16 lebarhon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lebarhon@free.fr">lebarhon@free.fr</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> + + + + + + <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"><div><div></div><div class="h5">It would be useful if there were a nice user friendly way to + upgrade Blender when it is backported. Something to let ordinary + users know a newer version is available and a simple click to + upgrade it.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Look to Mageia App DB (in testing)</div><div>There is growing a good interface.<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></div> +<div><br></div><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><a href="http://88.191.121.20/madb/mageia/index.php/rpm/list/distrelease/2/application/0/arch/2/source/0/listtype/updates_testing/page/1">http://88.191.121.20/madb/mageia/index.php/rpm/list/distrelease/2/application/0/arch/2/source/0/listtype/updates_testing/page/1</a></div> +<div>The link shows the update soon coming.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/acf83a0c/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/acf83a0c/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a5d0c2f77 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/acf83a0c/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,45 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> +<html> + <head> + <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" + http-equiv="Content-Type"> + <title></title> + </head> + <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> + by <strong><a +href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=359">pmithrandir</a></strong> + » Jun 13th, '11, 20:21 + <div class="content">On my side, I think mageia should do a "mix" of + others idea.<br> + <br> + I would say : <br> + - A release every year.<br> + - During this year, a way to update some popular stuff (firefox, + chrome, libreoffice...)<br> + - During this year also a way to add some new package if needed or + if there is some instant success for a new software.<br> + <br> + Every 3 years, the release is LTS and that mean it would be + maintain for 4 years.<br> + <br> + So at the same time, mageia would be in 3 mode : <br> + - The LTS<br> + - The common release<br> + - The cauldron.<br> + <br> + With that kind of stuff, you should have no more than one release + for public at a time, and just one LTS.<br> + If you update main software(we could define a list of no more than + 20 software) people who are crasy about new function, or + developper who need tham to develop new stuff would be happy.<br> + <br> + BTW : I think mailing list are totally outdated and that mageia + should have a special section in this forum for these discussion, + or maybe another forum.<br> + It's totally impossible for people who want to participate + sometimes to follow you emails everydays. It's much faster to read + some topic on a forum than dozens emails. And your final user + should be able to know what happen easily. It would be a big + in + front of others distributions.</div> + </body> +</html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/acf83a0c/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/acf83a0c/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a5d0c2f77 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/acf83a0c/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,45 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> +<html> + <head> + <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" + http-equiv="Content-Type"> + <title></title> + </head> + <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> + by <strong><a +href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=359">pmithrandir</a></strong> + » Jun 13th, '11, 20:21 + <div class="content">On my side, I think mageia should do a "mix" of + others idea.<br> + <br> + I would say : <br> + - A release every year.<br> + - During this year, a way to update some popular stuff (firefox, + chrome, libreoffice...)<br> + - During this year also a way to add some new package if needed or + if there is some instant success for a new software.<br> + <br> + Every 3 years, the release is LTS and that mean it would be + maintain for 4 years.<br> + <br> + So at the same time, mageia would be in 3 mode : <br> + - The LTS<br> + - The common release<br> + - The cauldron.<br> + <br> + With that kind of stuff, you should have no more than one release + for public at a time, and just one LTS.<br> + If you update main software(we could define a list of no more than + 20 software) people who are crasy about new function, or + developper who need tham to develop new stuff would be happy.<br> + <br> + BTW : I think mailing list are totally outdated and that mageia + should have a special section in this forum for these discussion, + or maybe another forum.<br> + It's totally impossible for people who want to participate + sometimes to follow you emails everydays. It's much faster to read + some topic on a forum than dozens emails. And your final user + should be able to know what happen easily. It would be a big + in + front of others distributions.</div> + </body> +</html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/b89fd0ec/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/b89fd0ec/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c96289f1f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/b89fd0ec/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,38 @@ +<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Donald Stewart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:watersnowrock@gmail.com">watersnowrock@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +<div><div></div><div class="h5">On 15 June 2011 13:35, Ahmad Samir <<a href="mailto:ahmadsamir3891@gmail.com">ahmadsamir3891@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> +> On 14 June 2011 14:32, Frank Griffin <<a href="mailto:ftg@roadrunner.com">ftg@roadrunner.com</a>> wrote:<br> +>> On 06/14/2011 08:22 AM, Thierry Vignaud wrote:<br> +>>><br> +>>> Upgrading stable firefox to firefox5rc and importing firefox-{beta,aurora}<br> +>>> are two distinct orthogonal things IMHO.<br> +>>><br> +>>> since firefox5 is near being released, I think we should update<br> +>>> main xulrunner+firefox to 5 anyway<br> +>>><br> +>> Whatever we do, please don't put it in Core to replace FF4 until the add-ons<br> +>> have been updated. It was really annoying to lose the Tor add-on for months<br> +>> because the beta FF4 just showed up and replaced FF3, and the Tor add-on<br> +>> wasn't updated until the release or just before.<br> +>><br> +><br> +> As I said, we have to have the Beta versions, so as to work out the<br> +> niggles to be ready to push the stable version to stable releases<br> +> (Mageia 1).<br> +><br> +> You can always workaround the compatibility, either:<br> +> - Adding it manually <a href="http://kb.mozillazine.org/Extensions.checkCompatibility" target="_blank">http://kb.mozillazine.org/Extensions.checkCompatibility</a> OR<br> +> - Using this extension<br> +> <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/" target="_blank">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/</a><br> +><br> +> in my experience, 90% of the time the addon will work with a new<br> +> version of FF (but then again I use a limited number of addons).<br> +><br> +> --<br> +> Ahmad Samir<br> +><br> +<br> +</div></div>I'm with Ahmad, going for beta for testing seems right. The beta<br> +release stage should be long enough for issues to be sorted so aurora<br> +isn't needed.<br> +</blockquote></div><br>Ok Mozilla has the RC1 released. Final shall come on Tuesday 21st June so yeah we will include that in Mageia 2 I think (as least this one, maybe FF6 or 7 depending on which version will be available i think)<br clear="all"> +<br>-- <br>Mit freundlichen Grüßen<br><br>Greetings<br><br>Daniel Kreuter<br><br><br><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/b89fd0ec/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/b89fd0ec/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c96289f1f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110616/b89fd0ec/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,38 @@ +<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Donald Stewart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:watersnowrock@gmail.com">watersnowrock@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +<div><div></div><div class="h5">On 15 June 2011 13:35, Ahmad Samir <<a href="mailto:ahmadsamir3891@gmail.com">ahmadsamir3891@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> +> On 14 June 2011 14:32, Frank Griffin <<a href="mailto:ftg@roadrunner.com">ftg@roadrunner.com</a>> wrote:<br> +>> On 06/14/2011 08:22 AM, Thierry Vignaud wrote:<br> +>>><br> +>>> Upgrading stable firefox to firefox5rc and importing firefox-{beta,aurora}<br> +>>> are two distinct orthogonal things IMHO.<br> +>>><br> +>>> since firefox5 is near being released, I think we should update<br> +>>> main xulrunner+firefox to 5 anyway<br> +>>><br> +>> Whatever we do, please don't put it in Core to replace FF4 until the add-ons<br> +>> have been updated. It was really annoying to lose the Tor add-on for months<br> +>> because the beta FF4 just showed up and replaced FF3, and the Tor add-on<br> +>> wasn't updated until the release or just before.<br> +>><br> +><br> +> As I said, we have to have the Beta versions, so as to work out the<br> +> niggles to be ready to push the stable version to stable releases<br> +> (Mageia 1).<br> +><br> +> You can always workaround the compatibility, either:<br> +> - Adding it manually <a href="http://kb.mozillazine.org/Extensions.checkCompatibility" target="_blank">http://kb.mozillazine.org/Extensions.checkCompatibility</a> OR<br> +> - Using this extension<br> +> <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/" target="_blank">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/</a><br> +><br> +> in my experience, 90% of the time the addon will work with a new<br> +> version of FF (but then again I use a limited number of addons).<br> +><br> +> --<br> +> Ahmad Samir<br> +><br> +<br> +</div></div>I'm with Ahmad, going for beta for testing seems right. The beta<br> +release stage should be long enough for issues to be sorted so aurora<br> +isn't needed.<br> +</blockquote></div><br>Ok Mozilla has the RC1 released. Final shall come on Tuesday 21st June so yeah we will include that in Mageia 2 I think (as least this one, maybe FF6 or 7 depending on which version will be available i think)<br clear="all"> +<br>-- <br>Mit freundlichen Grüßen<br><br>Greetings<br><br>Daniel Kreuter<br><br><br><br> |