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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/08fac349/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/08fac349/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..74d70b813 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/08fac349/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,6 @@ +<p>I agree. Mailing lists are messy and hard to follow. And sometimes the only response you get is about how you sent the message wrong. I bet more people would use the forums. Only a couple people so far are hooked on mailing lists. Im seeing more and more comments coming in about this. forums would at least would allow people to follow one version of the discussion instead of everyone posting a copy with their reply. And its easier to review past messages without sorting through all your emails that practically spam your box. People can subscribe to the topics they actually want, and browse the messages at their leisure. mailing list might work best for a couple people but is it worth inconveniencing the rest of the word because you are a die hard mailing list user?</p> + +<div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 14, 2011 6:42 AM, "lebarhon" <<a href="mailto:lebarhon@free.fr">lebarhon@free.fr</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">> by *roadrunner <br>> <<a href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=468">https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=468</a>>* » <br> +> Jun 13th, '11, 22:24<br>> <br>> pmithrandir wrote:BTW : I think mailing list are totally outdated<br>> and that mageia should have a special section in this forum for<br>> these discussion, or maybe another forum.<br> +> It's totally impossible for people who want to participate sometimes<br>> to follow you emails everydays. It's much faster to read some topic<br>> on a forum than dozens emails. And your final user should be able to<br> +> know what happen easily. It would be a big + in front of others<br>> distributions.<br>> <br>> Well said, I couldn't have put it better mysef and I agree 100%<br>> <br>> .\\artin<br></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/08fac349/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/08fac349/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..74d70b813 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/08fac349/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,6 @@ +<p>I agree. Mailing lists are messy and hard to follow. And sometimes the only response you get is about how you sent the message wrong. I bet more people would use the forums. Only a couple people so far are hooked on mailing lists. Im seeing more and more comments coming in about this. forums would at least would allow people to follow one version of the discussion instead of everyone posting a copy with their reply. And its easier to review past messages without sorting through all your emails that practically spam your box. People can subscribe to the topics they actually want, and browse the messages at their leisure. mailing list might work best for a couple people but is it worth inconveniencing the rest of the word because you are a die hard mailing list user?</p> + +<div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 14, 2011 6:42 AM, "lebarhon" <<a href="mailto:lebarhon@free.fr">lebarhon@free.fr</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">> by *roadrunner <br>> <<a href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=468">https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=468</a>>* » <br> +> Jun 13th, '11, 22:24<br>> <br>> pmithrandir wrote:BTW : I think mailing list are totally outdated<br>> and that mageia should have a special section in this forum for<br>> these discussion, or maybe another forum.<br> +> It's totally impossible for people who want to participate sometimes<br>> to follow you emails everydays. It's much faster to read some topic<br>> on a forum than dozens emails. And your final user should be able to<br> +> know what happen easily. It would be a big + in front of others<br>> distributions.<br>> <br>> Well said, I couldn't have put it better mysef and I agree 100%<br>> <br>> .\\artin<br></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/27a82161/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/27a82161/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ff559d091 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/27a82161/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,5 @@ +<p>And keeping one golden rule of software development in mind, don't let your system do redundant tasks. Look how many times a conversation is repeated throughout its life time in a mailing list. Thats alot of redundant data using up server traffic. In a forum everything is more central. A lot less redundancy. and you can still get topic replies. What about being able to reply to the notification email to reply to the thread? That would be a start on a compromise. Nice feature for a modern forum/mailing system. Maybe also be able to subscribe to forum catagories. This would allow those who wish for emails to still use mail.</p> + +<div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 14, 2011 9:16 AM, "Frank Griffin" <<a href="mailto:ftg@roadrunner.com">ftg@roadrunner.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">> On 06/14/2011 09:07 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:<br> +>> So, IMHO this discussion is as meaningless as the famous/infamous vi<br>>> vs emacs discussions of way back when.<br>> <br>> +1<br>> <br>> Not to mention that if you don't like getting emails, you can always <br> +> simply use the archives to find what interests you.<br>> <br></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/27a82161/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/27a82161/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ff559d091 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/27a82161/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,5 @@ +<p>And keeping one golden rule of software development in mind, don't let your system do redundant tasks. Look how many times a conversation is repeated throughout its life time in a mailing list. Thats alot of redundant data using up server traffic. In a forum everything is more central. A lot less redundancy. and you can still get topic replies. What about being able to reply to the notification email to reply to the thread? That would be a start on a compromise. Nice feature for a modern forum/mailing system. Maybe also be able to subscribe to forum catagories. This would allow those who wish for emails to still use mail.</p> + +<div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 14, 2011 9:16 AM, "Frank Griffin" <<a href="mailto:ftg@roadrunner.com">ftg@roadrunner.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">> On 06/14/2011 09:07 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:<br> +>> So, IMHO this discussion is as meaningless as the famous/infamous vi<br>>> vs emacs discussions of way back when.<br>> <br>> +1<br>> <br>> Not to mention that if you don't like getting emails, you can always <br> +> simply use the archives to find what interests you.<br>> <br></div> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/27b02af6/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/27b02af6/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..80ee8a859 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/27b02af6/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,21 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/6/14 Christiaan Welvaart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cjw@daneel.dyndns.org">cjw@daneel.dyndns.org</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +<div class="im">On Tue, 14 Jun 2011, Thorsten van Lil wrote:<br> +<br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +I don't want a full rolling release, because of the listed disadvantages. So, if you ask me what is "wrong" with Arch, I would say:<br> +* due to the rolling release, it's nearly vanilla. This doesn't match requirements of Mageia<br> +* no innovations (because of vanilla)<br> +* a rolling core system has a negative correlation with it's stability<br> +* heavy work load<br> +* ...<br> +<br> +So, I don't ask for a copy of Arch nor any other distribution. I asked (although it wasn't my idea) for something new. An compromise: a light rolling release.<br> +</blockquote> +<br></div> +This is exactly what release + updates + backports can be, the only requirement is enough people to do the work. I do not understand what people are saying about backports being "unsupported". IMHO we should either have backports that are supported, with fixes for security issues and important bugs, or no backports.<br> +</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I guess because of Mandriva policy. We did provide backports but it was explicitely said to be unsupported. "Use it at your own risks"</div><div>We may have to rewrite this and make things clear</div> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><font color="#888888"> +<br> +<br> + Christiaan<br> +</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Anne<br><a href="http://www.mageia.org" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org</a><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/27b02af6/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/27b02af6/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..80ee8a859 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/27b02af6/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,21 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/6/14 Christiaan Welvaart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cjw@daneel.dyndns.org">cjw@daneel.dyndns.org</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +<div class="im">On Tue, 14 Jun 2011, Thorsten van Lil wrote:<br> +<br> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> +I don't want a full rolling release, because of the listed disadvantages. So, if you ask me what is "wrong" with Arch, I would say:<br> +* due to the rolling release, it's nearly vanilla. This doesn't match requirements of Mageia<br> +* no innovations (because of vanilla)<br> +* a rolling core system has a negative correlation with it's stability<br> +* heavy work load<br> +* ...<br> +<br> +So, I don't ask for a copy of Arch nor any other distribution. I asked (although it wasn't my idea) for something new. An compromise: a light rolling release.<br> +</blockquote> +<br></div> +This is exactly what release + updates + backports can be, the only requirement is enough people to do the work. I do not understand what people are saying about backports being "unsupported". IMHO we should either have backports that are supported, with fixes for security issues and important bugs, or no backports.<br> +</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I guess because of Mandriva policy. We did provide backports but it was explicitely said to be unsupported. "Use it at your own risks"</div><div>We may have to rewrite this and make things clear</div> +<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><font color="#888888"> +<br> +<br> + Christiaan<br> +</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Anne<br><a href="http://www.mageia.org" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org</a><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/2822aa8a/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/2822aa8a/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e0f4fcd81 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/2822aa8a/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,21 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/strict.dtd"> +<html><head><meta name="qrichtext" content="1" /><style type="text/css"> +p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; } +</style></head><body style=" font-family:'DejaVu Sans [unknown]'; font-size:9pt; font-weight:400; font-style:normal;"> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Thorsten van Lil <tvl83@gmx.de> schrieb am 14.06.2011</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> Am Montag, 13. Juni 2011, 23:28:04 schrieb Renaud MICHEL:</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > I don't get it why people think a re-install is necessary.</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > My current computer was installed with mandriva 2007 (don't</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > remember if it was .0 or .1), it is now mageia 1 and has been</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > updated to all intermediary mdv releases.</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> </p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> An Upgrade is nearly the same, than reinstalling. The difference is</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> only, that you can use your system in the mean time and you are</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> not forced to install the missing packages.</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">And you keep all your precious settings and databases and webroots and...</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">And of couse the software you did unstall outside of the package management (proprietary stuff,...).</p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">And a bit to the argument of having to install loads of software at the same time: When some basic libraries are upgraded, loads of software have to be rebuilt against them, so with the rolling aproach you will just get that massive upgrades more often, so where is the bonus in it?</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">If people want to have their software more up to date, use backports, if they want to have it even more up to date, use cauldron, but don't cry if anything breaks.</p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Oliver</p></body></html>
\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/2822aa8a/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/2822aa8a/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..e0f4fcd81 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/2822aa8a/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,21 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/strict.dtd"> +<html><head><meta name="qrichtext" content="1" /><style type="text/css"> +p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; } +</style></head><body style=" font-family:'DejaVu Sans [unknown]'; font-size:9pt; font-weight:400; font-style:normal;"> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Thorsten van Lil <tvl83@gmx.de> schrieb am 14.06.2011</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> Am Montag, 13. Juni 2011, 23:28:04 schrieb Renaud MICHEL:</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > I don't get it why people think a re-install is necessary.</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > My current computer was installed with mandriva 2007 (don't</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > remember if it was .0 or .1), it is now mageia 1 and has been</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> > updated to all intermediary mdv releases.</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> </p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> An Upgrade is nearly the same, than reinstalling. The difference is</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> only, that you can use your system in the mean time and you are</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> not forced to install the missing packages.</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">And you keep all your precious settings and databases and webroots and...</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">And of couse the software you did unstall outside of the package management (proprietary stuff,...).</p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">And a bit to the argument of having to install loads of software at the same time: When some basic libraries are upgraded, loads of software have to be rebuilt against them, so with the rolling aproach you will just get that massive upgrades more often, so where is the bonus in it?</p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">If people want to have their software more up to date, use backports, if they want to have it even more up to date, use cauldron, but don't cry if anything breaks.</p> +<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p> +<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Oliver</p></body></html>
\ No newline at end of file diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/3742f6c5/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/3742f6c5/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..56cab3ee4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/3742f6c5/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,16 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Balcaen John <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mikala@mageia.org">mikala@mageia.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +Le mardi 14 juin 2011 08:56:29, Dexter Morgan a écrit :<br> +<div class="im">> Hello,<br> +><br> +> do we wait firefox 5 rc or we can start to update to firefox 5 soon ?<br> +><br> +</div>I noticed that mandriva is now providing a -stable, -beta and -devel version<br> +of firefox, maybe we can use this solution.<br> +<br> +Regards,<br> +<font color="#888888"><br> +--<br> +Balcaen John<br> +Jabber ID: <a href="mailto:mikala@jabber.littleboboy.net">mikala@jabber.littleboboy.net</a><br> +</font></blockquote></div><br>We are already using this for the chromium-browser i just noticed that this morning.<br><br>When I remember correct Mozilla doesn't plan to bring out a RC?? Maybe I'm wrong with that. But providing FF5 for Mga2 would be nice (maybe we can just go to Version 6 or 7 when it's out. When their new release cycle works FF7 will be out before mga2)<br> +<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Mit freundlichen Grüßen<br><br>Greetings<br><br>Daniel Kreuter<br><br><br><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/3742f6c5/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/3742f6c5/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..56cab3ee4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/3742f6c5/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,16 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Balcaen John <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mikala@mageia.org">mikala@mageia.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +Le mardi 14 juin 2011 08:56:29, Dexter Morgan a écrit :<br> +<div class="im">> Hello,<br> +><br> +> do we wait firefox 5 rc or we can start to update to firefox 5 soon ?<br> +><br> +</div>I noticed that mandriva is now providing a -stable, -beta and -devel version<br> +of firefox, maybe we can use this solution.<br> +<br> +Regards,<br> +<font color="#888888"><br> +--<br> +Balcaen John<br> +Jabber ID: <a href="mailto:mikala@jabber.littleboboy.net">mikala@jabber.littleboboy.net</a><br> +</font></blockquote></div><br>We are already using this for the chromium-browser i just noticed that this morning.<br><br>When I remember correct Mozilla doesn't plan to bring out a RC?? Maybe I'm wrong with that. But providing FF5 for Mga2 would be nice (maybe we can just go to Version 6 or 7 when it's out. When their new release cycle works FF7 will be out before mga2)<br> +<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Mit freundlichen Grüßen<br><br>Greetings<br><br>Daniel Kreuter<br><br><br><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/45746b6e/attachment-0001.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/45746b6e/attachment-0001.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4dbe5764c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/45746b6e/attachment-0001.asc @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) + +iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN94dxAAoJEFTnxl6Z2dG4E1sH/0KhU3bivDvhMLHzzJVsd7qo +tRP9gXexsPLATsqsMY8n8Zw9zfB2TGlH1L6UY5h7dRLjQEIBZ+0q3K/dfbvbeDoN +97dbiN7dPiCt6Yark0V253+tv2H/Drlo2hk5CPmMnYJOqhFAkNMgG/P7KhCQMhMS +xzAHJeIylr+qAGopFm1mj7H2uMfb/iRlxhjx2u0aC5rGuObHhcOzXADLCPGEADUg +8Cu9gPYIB0L+j+HSbu3oEuNFTs+RanpYKcbqjMDAfb1eAirjzgtvolc0ix1aF9x/ +YnZ1LnqXLCSXJtZVamte5qksIE8UgBBUQ9NdYxK97TM+Jv4ZTiSRFqiU+6XwIYY= +=XXpu +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/45746b6e/attachment.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/45746b6e/attachment.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4dbe5764c --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/45746b6e/attachment.asc @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) + +iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN94dxAAoJEFTnxl6Z2dG4E1sH/0KhU3bivDvhMLHzzJVsd7qo +tRP9gXexsPLATsqsMY8n8Zw9zfB2TGlH1L6UY5h7dRLjQEIBZ+0q3K/dfbvbeDoN +97dbiN7dPiCt6Yark0V253+tv2H/Drlo2hk5CPmMnYJOqhFAkNMgG/P7KhCQMhMS +xzAHJeIylr+qAGopFm1mj7H2uMfb/iRlxhjx2u0aC5rGuObHhcOzXADLCPGEADUg +8Cu9gPYIB0L+j+HSbu3oEuNFTs+RanpYKcbqjMDAfb1eAirjzgtvolc0ix1aF9x/ +YnZ1LnqXLCSXJtZVamte5qksIE8UgBBUQ9NdYxK97TM+Jv4ZTiSRFqiU+6XwIYY= +=XXpu +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/5c671be9/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/5c671be9/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..73d80a76f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/5c671be9/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,27 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> +<html> + <head> + <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" + http-equiv="Content-Type"> + </head> + <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> + <span class="corners-top"><span></span></span>by <strong><a +href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=468">roadrunner</a></strong> + » Jun 13th, '11, 22:24 + <div class="content"> + <blockquote> + <div><cite>pmithrandir wrote:</cite>BTW : I think mailing list + are totally outdated and that mageia should have a special + section in this forum for these discussion, or maybe another + forum.<br> + It's totally impossible for people who want to participate + sometimes to follow you emails everydays. It's much faster to + read some topic on a forum than dozens emails. And your final + user should be able to know what happen easily. It would be a + big + in front of others distributions.</div> + </blockquote> + Well said, I couldn't have put it better mysef and I agree 100%<br> + <br> + .\\artin</div> + </body> +</html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/5c671be9/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/5c671be9/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..73d80a76f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/5c671be9/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,27 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> +<html> + <head> + <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" + http-equiv="Content-Type"> + </head> + <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> + <span class="corners-top"><span></span></span>by <strong><a +href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=468">roadrunner</a></strong> + » Jun 13th, '11, 22:24 + <div class="content"> + <blockquote> + <div><cite>pmithrandir wrote:</cite>BTW : I think mailing list + are totally outdated and that mageia should have a special + section in this forum for these discussion, or maybe another + forum.<br> + It's totally impossible for people who want to participate + sometimes to follow you emails everydays. It's much faster to + read some topic on a forum than dozens emails. And your final + user should be able to know what happen easily. It would be a + big + in front of others distributions.</div> + </blockquote> + Well said, I couldn't have put it better mysef and I agree 100%<br> + <br> + .\\artin</div> + </body> +</html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/5d48db10/attachment-0001.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/5d48db10/attachment-0001.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7f5e61667 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/5d48db10/attachment-0001.asc @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) + +iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN99BWAAoJEFTnxl6Z2dG4QzcH/0o34Qc1ZHSrq80hNL+4ZmQY +RqhLBN5kRyIaxfXO1dcaMQP3VSaWyxMHYEuvJheHjbZHeJPt6IS9t3+D1iVV9NlD +vRQX/RU0EN8d69aRjqjhQDM4KFZAawlvO7lfsmOYOXSqWDvu1r//JT4r2T+2RObU ++VYHYvRjbZ0J/hVDzdcdqaXNkLYkGacn1LdN6HAFBG5TaQL37oUXwxs5PE6iVO35 +ov0KTT3MYUDRSKTZJGh+w7FZePtahCGuo4F2M98HgZ04Ar0BNAZnRgIBVVcgHlF+ +HEdxIOa7h6070S9AWCH90jz8Ukq7SuZqzHKItCTKys+IU4Dp0LaXCWM3BkOu4qA= +=CdUw +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/5d48db10/attachment.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/5d48db10/attachment.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7f5e61667 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/5d48db10/attachment.asc @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) + +iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN99BWAAoJEFTnxl6Z2dG4QzcH/0o34Qc1ZHSrq80hNL+4ZmQY +RqhLBN5kRyIaxfXO1dcaMQP3VSaWyxMHYEuvJheHjbZHeJPt6IS9t3+D1iVV9NlD +vRQX/RU0EN8d69aRjqjhQDM4KFZAawlvO7lfsmOYOXSqWDvu1r//JT4r2T+2RObU ++VYHYvRjbZ0J/hVDzdcdqaXNkLYkGacn1LdN6HAFBG5TaQL37oUXwxs5PE6iVO35 +ov0KTT3MYUDRSKTZJGh+w7FZePtahCGuo4F2M98HgZ04Ar0BNAZnRgIBVVcgHlF+ +HEdxIOa7h6070S9AWCH90jz8Ukq7SuZqzHKItCTKys+IU4Dp0LaXCWM3BkOu4qA= +=CdUw +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/74831276/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/74831276/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..643ec903b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/74831276/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,81 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> +<html> + <head> + <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" + http-equiv="Content-Type"> + </head> + <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> + <br> + by <strong><a +href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=646">corbintech</a></strong> + » Jun 13th, '11, 22:12 + <div class="content">I quit the ML because I was not doing it right + (never used a list like that before).<br> + <br> + So if I may, I will post here what somebody responded to me and + write my response here.<br> + <br> + <blockquote class="uncited"> + <div>complete rolling release would put a QA strain on each of + the levels. think <br> + about it, it's not only the current package being updated, but + also the <br> + combinations with other packages. (AND also all the long time + supported <br> + versions)<br> + <br> + This would mean that for each package being release, it'll + have to work with <br> + the current set of other packages, but also with the packages + you'll be doing <br> + next.<br> + <br> + if you have this constant level of QA, you need alot of + resources (which we <br> + don't have in QA), and as an extra result, you'll not have the + same level of <br> + QA you could have, when you're doing a release.<br> + <br> + it's much easier (as devs) to just choose a subset of + packages, and test those <br> + out.<br> + <br> + if you have X QA-devs, and you have 1 subset of versions of + packages, you can <br> + test alot more than if you have several versions of several + packages that need <br> + to work all with each other in almost any combinations...<br> + <br> + not to mention that you need an extra step with QA to put a + "group" of <br> + packages from one level to the next...<br> + <br> + sorry, but with our current resources, i vote no. i want + current resources to <br> + be used much more efficiently than with a rolling release.</div> + </blockquote> + <br> + <br> + Why do we keep acting like there is no other way to pool + resources? I have never helped develop in any way, teach me + something and I'll lend a hand... Others may do the same.. ASK!<br> + <br> + QA comes from testing... Test... Test... And test more... To make + sure what you have works and works well. Let's change up my idea a + bit and satisfy everyone... Let's compromise... <br> + <br> + How about Cooker (or whatever you call) rolls to rolling (can be + very stable???!!!) with release cycle releases based on a snapshot + of either of the rolling models and supported for X amount of + time? This could make those whom want a rolling release model + happy and those whom want a release cycle.<br> + <br> + Would this be hard? I don't really think so as development is + already based on a rolling model (cooker or whatever), all that + will have to be done is packages roll down the line. I seen in the + start of all these talks you wanted to support 3 structures of + systems... Here they are!<br> + <br> + What about this? Get the community involved!</div> + </body> +</html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/74831276/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/74831276/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..643ec903b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/74831276/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,81 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> +<html> + <head> + <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" + http-equiv="Content-Type"> + </head> + <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> + <br> + by <strong><a +href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=646">corbintech</a></strong> + » Jun 13th, '11, 22:12 + <div class="content">I quit the ML because I was not doing it right + (never used a list like that before).<br> + <br> + So if I may, I will post here what somebody responded to me and + write my response here.<br> + <br> + <blockquote class="uncited"> + <div>complete rolling release would put a QA strain on each of + the levels. think <br> + about it, it's not only the current package being updated, but + also the <br> + combinations with other packages. (AND also all the long time + supported <br> + versions)<br> + <br> + This would mean that for each package being release, it'll + have to work with <br> + the current set of other packages, but also with the packages + you'll be doing <br> + next.<br> + <br> + if you have this constant level of QA, you need alot of + resources (which we <br> + don't have in QA), and as an extra result, you'll not have the + same level of <br> + QA you could have, when you're doing a release.<br> + <br> + it's much easier (as devs) to just choose a subset of + packages, and test those <br> + out.<br> + <br> + if you have X QA-devs, and you have 1 subset of versions of + packages, you can <br> + test alot more than if you have several versions of several + packages that need <br> + to work all with each other in almost any combinations...<br> + <br> + not to mention that you need an extra step with QA to put a + "group" of <br> + packages from one level to the next...<br> + <br> + sorry, but with our current resources, i vote no. i want + current resources to <br> + be used much more efficiently than with a rolling release.</div> + </blockquote> + <br> + <br> + Why do we keep acting like there is no other way to pool + resources? I have never helped develop in any way, teach me + something and I'll lend a hand... Others may do the same.. ASK!<br> + <br> + QA comes from testing... Test... Test... And test more... To make + sure what you have works and works well. Let's change up my idea a + bit and satisfy everyone... Let's compromise... <br> + <br> + How about Cooker (or whatever you call) rolls to rolling (can be + very stable???!!!) with release cycle releases based on a snapshot + of either of the rolling models and supported for X amount of + time? This could make those whom want a rolling release model + happy and those whom want a release cycle.<br> + <br> + Would this be hard? I don't really think so as development is + already based on a rolling model (cooker or whatever), all that + will have to be done is packages roll down the line. I seen in the + start of all these talks you wanted to support 3 structures of + systems... Here they are!<br> + <br> + What about this? 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I am sorry if I sounded biased, and was off topic. I still think some kind of innovative new messaging/forum/blog/mailing list reimagining sounds like a fun project. But I do understand its not a feasible option right now for mageia. I definitly think im gonna ponder this more. I do have experience in php and other web related languages. Again sorry I was off topic in the other thread, and thanks for the healthy debate. Its refreshing to hear some brutal honesty and sense. If anyone is interested in talking more about this I would certainly be grateful for some constructive criticism from such a knowledgable group. I hope I did this right. Trying to make it a new topic.</p> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/85bfd220/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/85bfd220/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..249f8f6b4 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/85bfd220/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,2 @@ +<p>Mailing lists and forums I guess both have drawbacks and advantages. I am sorry if I sounded biased, and was off topic. I still think some kind of innovative new messaging/forum/blog/mailing list reimagining sounds like a fun project. But I do understand its not a feasible option right now for mageia. I definitly think im gonna ponder this more. I do have experience in php and other web related languages. Again sorry I was off topic in the other thread, and thanks for the healthy debate. Its refreshing to hear some brutal honesty and sense. If anyone is interested in talking more about this I would certainly be grateful for some constructive criticism from such a knowledgable group. I hope I did this right. Trying to make it a new topic.</p> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/b761afda/attachment-0001.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/b761afda/attachment-0001.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..eb565947d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/b761afda/attachment-0001.asc @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEABECAAYFAk33Z4MACgkQqEs9DA4DquDwlACgnDOA9alvQljl/svaKCF+f5Kp +N5EAniCQFEFBGenhB/KtkuQblsNi+jy4 +=f06z +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/b761afda/attachment.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/b761afda/attachment.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..eb565947d --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/b761afda/attachment.asc @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEABECAAYFAk33Z4MACgkQqEs9DA4DquDwlACgnDOA9alvQljl/svaKCF+f5Kp +N5EAniCQFEFBGenhB/KtkuQblsNi+jy4 +=f06z +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/c2de0d6a/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/c2de0d6a/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..83f111307 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/c2de0d6a/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/6/14 Angelo Naselli <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anaselli@linux.it">anaselli@linux.it</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +martedì 14 giugno 2011 alle 12:00, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU ha scritto:<br> +<div class="im">.....</div> +<br> +Said that every distros have problems. Mageia has no monodevelop<br> +for me taht's blocking as well...<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I will push monodevelop in svn asap (maybe this evening), for the revision of my mentor.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> + +<br> +Cheers,<br> +<font color="#888888"> Angelo<br> +</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Ciao<br>Stblack<br><a href="http://stblack.blogspot.com/">http://stblack.blogspot.com/</a><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/c2de0d6a/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/c2de0d6a/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..83f111307 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/c2de0d6a/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,11 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/6/14 Angelo Naselli <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anaselli@linux.it">anaselli@linux.it</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +martedì 14 giugno 2011 alle 12:00, Radu-Cristian FOTESCU ha scritto:<br> +<div class="im">.....</div> +<br> +Said that every distros have problems. Mageia has no monodevelop<br> +for me taht's blocking as well...<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I will push monodevelop in svn asap (maybe this evening), for the revision of my mentor.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> + +<br> +Cheers,<br> +<font color="#888888"> Angelo<br> +</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Ciao<br>Stblack<br><a href="http://stblack.blogspot.com/">http://stblack.blogspot.com/</a><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/c3c82ec2/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/c3c82ec2/attachment-0001.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d279b87eb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/c3c82ec2/attachment-0001.html @@ -0,0 +1,17 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/6/14 Wolfgang Bornath <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:molch.b@googlemail.com">molch.b@googlemail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +2011/6/14 Anne nicolas <<a href="mailto:ennael@mageia.org">ennael@mageia.org</a>>:<br> +<div class="im">><br> +> I guess because of Mandriva policy. We did provide backports but it was<br> +> explicitely said to be unsupported. "Use it at your own risks"<br> +> We may have to rewrite this and make things clear<br> +<br> +</div>Do you mean, just telling people that it is no risk or do you mean a<br> +change which lessens the risk?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>not at all</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +As Michael wrote earlier in this thread, if there was the risk to<br> +break the system by low quality of backports then the quality has to<br> +be improved (not his own words but that's how I understood it).<br> +<font color="#888888"><br></font></blockquote><div>exactly what I had in mind. Having backports can allow choice between "the last version of" and "the stable version with which I'm happy</div><div> with". But indeed we need more quality in backport rpms that is policy and tests.</div> +<div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><font color="#888888"> +--<br> +wobo<br> +</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Anne<br><a href="http://www.mageia.org" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org</a><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/c3c82ec2/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/c3c82ec2/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d279b87eb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/c3c82ec2/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,17 @@ +<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/6/14 Wolfgang Bornath <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:molch.b@googlemail.com">molch.b@googlemail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +2011/6/14 Anne nicolas <<a href="mailto:ennael@mageia.org">ennael@mageia.org</a>>:<br> +<div class="im">><br> +> I guess because of Mandriva policy. We did provide backports but it was<br> +> explicitely said to be unsupported. "Use it at your own risks"<br> +> We may have to rewrite this and make things clear<br> +<br> +</div>Do you mean, just telling people that it is no risk or do you mean a<br> +change which lessens the risk?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>not at all</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> +As Michael wrote earlier in this thread, if there was the risk to<br> +break the system by low quality of backports then the quality has to<br> +be improved (not his own words but that's how I understood it).<br> +<font color="#888888"><br></font></blockquote><div>exactly what I had in mind. Having backports can allow choice between "the last version of" and "the stable version with which I'm happy</div><div> with". But indeed we need more quality in backport rpms that is policy and tests.</div> +<div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><font color="#888888"> +--<br> +wobo<br> +</font></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Anne<br><a href="http://www.mageia.org" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org</a><br> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/cd3965de/attachment-0001.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/cd3965de/attachment-0001.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..67c3b2790 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/cd3965de/attachment-0001.asc @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEABECAAYFAk33gQgACgkQqEs9DA4DquCvsgCcDsC40o+P8ncyybuquzKhb8I+ +XEcAn3PT6CWAha/3b1N3ao96CVq6fsfL +=9/B0 +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/cd3965de/attachment.asc b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/cd3965de/attachment.asc new file mode 100644 index 000000000..67c3b2790 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/attachments/20110614/cd3965de/attachment.asc @@ -0,0 +1,7 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) + +iEYEABECAAYFAk33gQgACgkQqEs9DA4DquCvsgCcDsC40o+P8ncyybuquzKhb8I+ +XEcAn3PT6CWAha/3b1N3ao96CVq6fsfL +=9/B0 +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |