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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/6/13 Thomas Backlund <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:tmb@mageia.org">tmb@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+Wolfgang Bornath skrev 13.6.2011 15:20:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+About the cycles:<div class="im"><br>
+<br>
+The 9-months seem to be a compromise - but I start to ask why we need<br>
+such a fixed statement (which it would be, once published). We need a<br>
+schedule for each cycle, that&#39;s true. Without a schedule we would<br>
+never finish anything. But how about taking 9 months only as a &quot;nice<br>
+to meet&quot; target, leaving us the option to set a roadmap after setting<br>
+the specs of the next release - we could then go for a 8 or 10 months<br>
+roadmap, depending on the specs.<br>
+<br>
+</div></blockquote>
+<br>
+This is somewhat like what I had in my mind to write too, but you beat me to it :)<br>
+<br>
+It could allow us to adapt a little for upstream releases.<br>
+But should we then decide that the limit is +/- 1 month ?<br>
+<br>
+Obviously there will still be people complaining that &quot;you waited 10 months... if you had extended with ~2 more weeks... &quot;this&quot; or &quot;that&quot;<br>
+package would have been available too... and so on....<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+And something not to forget (this is more related to the specs):<br>
+<br>
+If an estimated upstream release of kde/gnome/... seem to fit our<br>
+schedule it _must_ be in Cauldron before version freeze so we<br>
+actually get some test/qa on it and not try to force it in by<br>
+&quot;hey it&#39;s released ~x days before final mageia release so it<br>
+ must be added&quot; attitude that tends to pop up at every freeze.<br>
+<br>
+--<br><font color="#888888">
+Thomas<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+</font></blockquote></div>Let the 9 months as maximum, as a general target.<div><br></div><div>Make the specs and then the roadmap with a fixed release date and a fixed enough time for freeze and testing.</div><div><br></div>
+<div>If an upstream release brings conflits, that&#39;s live.</div><div>Main focus should be a stable release for simple users not a pot of the latest apps</div><div><br></div><div>Magnus</div><div><br></div>