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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Anne nicolas &lt;ennael@mageia.org&gt; schrieb am 25.05.2011</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Please have a look on it and add anything that could complete it.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Deadline is thursday evening</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">shouldn't system-config-printer be listed among the configuration tools?</p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Oliver</p></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Anne nicolas &lt;ennael@mageia.org&gt; schrieb am 25.05.2011</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Please have a look on it and add anything that could complete it.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Deadline is thursday evening</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">shouldn't system-config-printer be listed among the configuration tools?</p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Anne nicolas &lt;ennael@mageia.org&gt; schrieb am 25.05.2011</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Please have a look on it and add anything that could complete it.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Deadline is thursday evening</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">And what about IDEs?</p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Anne nicolas &lt;ennael@mageia.org&gt; schrieb am 25.05.2011</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Please have a look on it and add anything that could complete it.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Deadline is thursday evening</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">And what about IDEs?</p>
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+<br><br>2011/5/26 Ahmad Samir &lt;<a href="mailto:ahmadsamir3891@gmail.com">ahmadsamir3891@gmail.com</a>&gt;:<br>&gt; On 26 May 2011 14:42, Anne nicolas &lt;<a href="mailto:ennael@mageia.org">ennael@mageia.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt;&gt; 2011/5/26 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<a href="mailto:molch.b@googlemail.com">molch.b@googlemail.com</a>&gt;:<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; 2011/5/25 Bruno Cornec &lt;<a href="mailto:Bruno.Cornec@hp.com">Bruno.Cornec@hp.com</a>&gt;:<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Thomas Backlund said on Wed, May 25, 2011 at 04:37:19PM +0300:<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Mondo package got properly epoched ~2 weeks ago:<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mondo/current/SPECS/mondo.spec?r1=75254&amp;r2=96498">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mondo/current/SPECS/mondo.spec?r1=75254&amp;r2=96498</a><br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Why do we start a new distro then, if it&#39;s to reproduce the errors made<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; in the previous one ?<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 1. we promise people an upgrade path from 2010.1/2<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; They still have an upgrade path, and that wasn&#39;t raising an error.<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 2. rpm/urpmi/rpmdrake does not read release notes<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; � �(same goes for many endusers)<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I disagree. THat&#39;s one of the most important reading when I go from RHEL<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 5.x to 5.x+1, between Mandriva, Mageia or whatever distro I&#39;m using.<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; It&#39;s much more easy to point people to a link and tell them to read, to<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; solve their issue/question.<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 3. we dont do exceptions for package(r)s<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Life is plenty of exceptions. And there are times when there are good<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; reasons to do them. Creating a new distro is not a task you&#39;ll do next<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; week again. Thinking to fix what was wrong in the previous one was IMO<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; more important than ensuring that level of upgrade path for a couple of<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; users of a package.<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I especially took time to discuss that point with Anne before taking any<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; decision and documented it<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; (<a href="http://brunocornec.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/considerations-on-mondorescue-packaging-for-mageia/">http://brunocornec.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/considerations-on-mondorescue-packaging-for-mageia/</a>)<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I&#39;m a bit disappointed that no real discussion/vote/choice was made<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; publicly.<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; This is an open system. You (as an interested person) could have<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt; started this public discussion any time. Of course, starting it a<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; couple of days before release may be a bit late.<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; hi wobo<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Discussion was started some weeks ago IIRC<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; --<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; wobo<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; --<br>&gt;&gt; Anne<br>&gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</a><br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>
+<br>As a reminder, release notes are on a wiki. You can add yourself your contribution :)<br><br>-- <br>Anne<br><a href="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</a><br><br>
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+<br><br>2011/5/26 Ahmad Samir &lt;<a href="mailto:ahmadsamir3891@gmail.com">ahmadsamir3891@gmail.com</a>&gt;:<br>&gt; On 26 May 2011 14:42, Anne nicolas &lt;<a href="mailto:ennael@mageia.org">ennael@mageia.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt;&gt; 2011/5/26 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<a href="mailto:molch.b@googlemail.com">molch.b@googlemail.com</a>&gt;:<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; 2011/5/25 Bruno Cornec &lt;<a href="mailto:Bruno.Cornec@hp.com">Bruno.Cornec@hp.com</a>&gt;:<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Thomas Backlund said on Wed, May 25, 2011 at 04:37:19PM +0300:<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Mondo package got properly epoched ~2 weeks ago:<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mondo/current/SPECS/mondo.spec?r1=75254&amp;r2=96498">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mondo/current/SPECS/mondo.spec?r1=75254&amp;r2=96498</a><br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Why do we start a new distro then, if it&#39;s to reproduce the errors made<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; in the previous one ?<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 1. we promise people an upgrade path from 2010.1/2<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; They still have an upgrade path, and that wasn&#39;t raising an error.<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 2. rpm/urpmi/rpmdrake does not read release notes<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; � �(same goes for many endusers)<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I disagree. THat&#39;s one of the most important reading when I go from RHEL<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 5.x to 5.x+1, between Mandriva, Mageia or whatever distro I&#39;m using.<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; It&#39;s much more easy to point people to a link and tell them to read, to<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; solve their issue/question.<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 3. we dont do exceptions for package(r)s<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Life is plenty of exceptions. And there are times when there are good<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; reasons to do them. Creating a new distro is not a task you&#39;ll do next<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; week again. Thinking to fix what was wrong in the previous one was IMO<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; more important than ensuring that level of upgrade path for a couple of<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; users of a package.<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I especially took time to discuss that point with Anne before taking any<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; decision and documented it<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; (<a href="http://brunocornec.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/considerations-on-mondorescue-packaging-for-mageia/">http://brunocornec.wordpress.com/2011/05/16/considerations-on-mondorescue-packaging-for-mageia/</a>)<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I&#39;m a bit disappointed that no real discussion/vote/choice was made<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; publicly.<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; This is an open system. You (as an interested person) could have<br>
+&gt;&gt;&gt; started this public discussion any time. Of course, starting it a<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; couple of days before release may be a bit late.<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; hi wobo<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Discussion was started some weeks ago IIRC<br>
+&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; --<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; wobo<br>&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; --<br>&gt;&gt; Anne<br>&gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</a><br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;<br>
+<br>As a reminder, release notes are on a wiki. You can add yourself your contribution :)<br><br>-- <br>Anne<br><a href="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</a><br><br>
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