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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Could we use the wiki to start studio page ? <br><br>* dssi-vst : providing vst support only through dssi (seems to be clean way to dont need comil many softwares with this troll-patent support) ?<br>
+* softwares &quot;must have&quot; (to dont have &quot;plenty of&quot; but only essential and allready maintained soft, as other discuss says ?)<br>* start identify together need to be modify on system (objective : shell script or wizzard) <br>
+* ...<br></div><br>maybe magieacauldron on tuxfamily if mageia wiki is ever today non-permanent tool ?<br><br>Franck ? <br><br>thanks<br>regards<br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Could we use the wiki to start studio page ? <br><br>* dssi-vst : providing vst support only through dssi (seems to be clean way to dont need comil many softwares with this troll-patent support) ?<br>
+* softwares &quot;must have&quot; (to dont have &quot;plenty of&quot; but only essential and allready maintained soft, as other discuss says ?)<br>* start identify together need to be modify on system (objective : shell script or wizzard) <br>
+* ...<br></div><br>maybe magieacauldron on tuxfamily if mageia wiki is ever today non-permanent tool ?<br><br>Franck ? <br><br>thanks<br>regards<br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/12/18 yvan munoz <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mr.yvan.munoz@gmail.com">mr.yvan.munoz@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<span lang="en"><span title="Cliquer ici pour voir d&#39;autres traductions"><br>ps : the real trouble about sound-studio seems to be &quot;how to provide non-free support&quot; ? (eg : compil most softwares with mp3 support, and vst support) It is possible to provide this supports but without distribute the lib of ? example : compil qtractor with mp3 + vst support, but wihtout provide lib for mp3 and vst : software could but user need to install himself mp3 and vst ?<br>
+
+</span></span></blockquote><div><br>Found a workaround for myself for that:<br>1) instead of mp3 use ogg -&gt; if they want libs for mp3 they have to install them by themself<br></div></div>2) I&#39;m not 100% shure on this, but afaik you only need the VST-Headers if you want win32-vst<br>
+there are some native linux vst plugins out there that do not require this lib.<br>Plus there is a very nice development of DSSI and LV2 stuff going on at the moment. <br>The new calf plugindesign f.e., Invada Studio DSSI .... <br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/12/18 yvan munoz <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mr.yvan.munoz@gmail.com">mr.yvan.munoz@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<span lang="en"><span title="Cliquer ici pour voir d&#39;autres traductions"><br>ps : the real trouble about sound-studio seems to be &quot;how to provide non-free support&quot; ? (eg : compil most softwares with mp3 support, and vst support) It is possible to provide this supports but without distribute the lib of ? example : compil qtractor with mp3 + vst support, but wihtout provide lib for mp3 and vst : software could but user need to install himself mp3 and vst ?<br>
+
+</span></span></blockquote><div><br>Found a workaround for myself for that:<br>1) instead of mp3 use ogg -&gt; if they want libs for mp3 they have to install them by themself<br></div></div>2) I&#39;m not 100% shure on this, but afaik you only need the VST-Headers if you want win32-vst<br>
+there are some native linux vst plugins out there that do not require this lib.<br>Plus there is a very nice development of DSSI and LV2 stuff going on at the moment. <br>The new calf plugindesign f.e., Invada Studio DSSI .... <br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/12/19 yvan munoz <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mr.yvan.munoz@gmail.com">mr.yvan.munoz@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/12/19 Sascha Schneider <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ungleichklang@gmail.com" target="_blank">ungleichklang@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><div> 
+<br></div><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="gmail_quote"><div></div></div>2) I&#39;m not 100% shure on this, but afaik you only need the VST-Headers if you want win32-vst<br>
+
+</blockquote><div> </div></div><div>Yes, i think too. More precisly, only with a good rewrite of aeffects.h file (but not without troll-patent)<br><br>We need the Franck review<br></div></div><br>very happy to see movment around studio in mageia :)<br>
+</blockquote><div><br>I just tested it and uninstalled DSSI-vst and DSSI-vst-wine. Kept the VST_PATH though.<br>My Renoise works and finds the FOlder and the included native Linux VST.<br>Downloaded an tested discoDSP Discovery and Loomer Aspect and Loomer String.<br>
+All work great. The Loomer stuff was tested with the .so and as standalone.<br><br>Yes, I know that I just outed myself as payer for software .... but only if it runs on Linux ... natively.<br>btw, I only use ogg samples with my renoise. ... oufti<br>
+<br><br>regards, saschas  <br></div></div><br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/12/19 yvan munoz <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mr.yvan.munoz@gmail.com">mr.yvan.munoz@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/12/19 Sascha Schneider <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ungleichklang@gmail.com" target="_blank">ungleichklang@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><div> 
+<br></div><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="gmail_quote"><div></div></div>2) I&#39;m not 100% shure on this, but afaik you only need the VST-Headers if you want win32-vst<br>
+
+</blockquote><div> </div></div><div>Yes, i think too. More precisly, only with a good rewrite of aeffects.h file (but not without troll-patent)<br><br>We need the Franck review<br></div></div><br>very happy to see movment around studio in mageia :)<br>
+</blockquote><div><br>I just tested it and uninstalled DSSI-vst and DSSI-vst-wine. Kept the VST_PATH though.<br>My Renoise works and finds the FOlder and the included native Linux VST.<br>Downloaded an tested discoDSP Discovery and Loomer Aspect and Loomer String.<br>
+All work great. The Loomer stuff was tested with the .so and as standalone.<br><br>Yes, I know that I just outed myself as payer for software .... but only if it runs on Linux ... natively.<br>btw, I only use ogg samples with my renoise. ... oufti<br>
+<br><br>regards, saschas  <br></div></div><br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/12/19 yvan munoz <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mr.yvan.munoz@gmail.com">mr.yvan.munoz@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Could we use the wiki to start studio page ? <br></div></blockquote><div><br>I asked romain by mail and he would appreciate that we do.<br><br></div><br></div>greetings, saschas<br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/12/19 yvan munoz <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mr.yvan.munoz@gmail.com">mr.yvan.munoz@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Could we use the wiki to start studio page ? <br></div></blockquote><div><br>I asked romain by mail and he would appreciate that we do.<br><br></div><br></div>greetings, saschas<br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/12/19 Sascha Schneider <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ungleichklang@gmail.com">ungleichklang@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div class="gmail_quote"><div>Found a workaround for myself for that:<br>1) instead of mp3 use ogg -&gt; if they want libs for mp3 they have to install them by themself<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br>but with a software who wasnt compiled with this support, how ? ;-)<br>
+ <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="gmail_quote"><div></div></div>2) I&#39;m not 100% shure on this, but afaik you only need the VST-Headers if you want win32-vst<br>
+</blockquote><div> </div><div>Yes, i think too. More precisly, only with a good rewrite of aeffects.h file (but not without troll-patent)<br><br>We need the Franck review<br></div></div><br>very happy to see movment around studio in mageia :)<br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/12/19 Sascha Schneider <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ungleichklang@gmail.com">ungleichklang@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div class="gmail_quote"><div>Found a workaround for myself for that:<br>1) instead of mp3 use ogg -&gt; if they want libs for mp3 they have to install them by themself<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br>but with a software who wasnt compiled with this support, how ? ;-)<br>
+ <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="gmail_quote"><div></div></div>2) I&#39;m not 100% shure on this, but afaik you only need the VST-Headers if you want win32-vst<br>
+</blockquote><div> </div><div>Yes, i think too. More precisly, only with a good rewrite of aeffects.h file (but not without troll-patent)<br><br>We need the Franck review<br></div></div><br>very happy to see movment around studio in mageia :)<br>
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+For the idea came up to add this subgroup to the mageia-wiki, to gather the ideas on this topic, I surfed and cracled my brain a bit.<br>At this moment I don&#39;t see, how and where a sub-group like sound-studio could be added into the existing wiki <span id="result_box" class="short_text" lang="en"><span title="Zur Anzeige alternativer Übersetzungen klicken" class="hps">thematically</span></span>.<br>
+<br>Would it be a idea to add this topic to the <a href="http://mageiauser.org">mageiauser.org</a> and alter the initial post with the inputs of the ML and irc&#39;s??<br>This way we could also include inputs from other irc&#39;s or forums, like <a href="http://linuxaudio.org">linuxaudio.org</a>, #linuxmao, #lau, #opensourcemusician etc ...<br>
+<br>regards, sascha<br><br>
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+For the idea came up to add this subgroup to the mageia-wiki, to gather the ideas on this topic, I surfed and cracled my brain a bit.<br>At this moment I don&#39;t see, how and where a sub-group like sound-studio could be added into the existing wiki <span id="result_box" class="short_text" lang="en"><span title="Zur Anzeige alternativer Übersetzungen klicken" class="hps">thematically</span></span>.<br>
+<br>Would it be a idea to add this topic to the <a href="http://mageiauser.org">mageiauser.org</a> and alter the initial post with the inputs of the ML and irc&#39;s??<br>This way we could also include inputs from other irc&#39;s or forums, like <a href="http://linuxaudio.org">linuxaudio.org</a>, #linuxmao, #lau, #opensourcemusician etc ...<br>
+<br>regards, sascha<br><br>