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+Hi <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/12/18 yvan munoz <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mr.yvan.munoz@gmail.com">mr.yvan.munoz@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<br>Hello, just few words to mention the <span lang="en"><span title="Cliquer ici pour voir d&#39;autres traductions">obvious :<br><br>1. musicians are sub-group<br></span></span></blockquote><div>yes, but there are more and more musicians that want to use linux. Mainly IMHO cause ther was a wave of sound apps development started end 2009 / beginning 2010 that really makes linux more and more attractive to musicians, naming Qtractor, ladish and even some new native linux VSTs .. and new LV2 plugs.<br>
+ </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><span lang="en"><span title="Cliquer ici pour voir d&#39;autres traductions">2. RT-kernel need is a sub-sub-group of (electronic and music) needs<br>
+</span></span></blockquote><div>yes, since kernel 2.6.33 the RT-Patch even made my system less stable that the normal kernel<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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+3. Jack works well on normal-kernel now, providing 90% of sound-studio usages (really needs of -RT are rares, irl)<br></span></span></blockquote><div>Well ... the normal kernel is o.k. exept, that it still has the &quot;Tickles System&quot; activated. Deaktivating this really boosts the kernel for sound .. at least in my and other cases I know it did.<br>
+<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><span lang="en"><span title="Cliquer ici pour voir d&#39;autres traductions"><br>
+and last thing : kernel-RT is not suffisant. user must configure most things on system (limits.d, sysctl, acpi, tmpfs or ramfs, fstab, and more to have a &quot;real pro-audio station like any others o.s&quot;), so providing kernel-rt is good to seems give &quot;out-of-the-box&quot; possibility, but it lies : user in all cases must configure what is bad to auto-conf through spec file<br>
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+<br></span></span></blockquote><div>Therefore I like the idea of the wizard.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><span lang="en"><span title="Cliquer ici pour voir d&#39;autres traductions"></span></span><span lang="en"><span title="Cliquer ici pour voir d&#39;autres traductions">So maybe it&#39;s a false good idea to provide kernel-rt.<br>
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+Another stone to wall &quot;dont want to have many kernel in repo&quot;<br><br>ps : the real trouble about sound-studio seems to be &quot;how to provide non-free support&quot; ? (eg : compil most softwares with mp3 support, and vst support) It is possible to provide this supports but without distribute the lib of ? example : compil qtractor with mp3 + vst support, but wihtout provide lib for mp3 and vst : software could but user need to install himself mp3 and vst ?<br>
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+<br></span></span></blockquote><div>Good point, but I have no answer to this at this point.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<span lang="en"><span title="Cliquer ici pour voir d&#39;autres traductions">end of off-topic<br>nice night<br>maybe soon<br>
+</span></span><br><br>
+</blockquote></div>regards, saschas<br>