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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/12/1 Maarten Vanraes <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:maarten.vanraes@gmail.com">maarten.vanraes@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+Op dinsdag 30 november 2010 13:31:08 schreef Samuel Verschelde:<br>
+&gt; Hi,<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I would like to discuss the support policy for Mageia.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; It would be interesting to know (or decide) where Mageia is heading, given<br>
+&gt; our limited resources : 1) focus on stability and security : few very well<br>
+&gt; equally supported packages. Apparently, this is where we&#39;re going for now.<br>
+&gt;  May be wise as a start, but I hope this is not our final destination,<br>
+&gt; because it means either very limited choice, or progressive diminution of<br>
+&gt; quality of support if the number of packages increases faster than the<br>
+&gt; dedicated resources. 2) focus on choice : many packages, but no support<br>
+&gt; policy. This would be really bad, I think we&#39;re not heading there, from<br>
+&gt; what I read. However, this is a danger if we start from option 1) and then<br>
+&gt; open wide the gates for importing packages, without setting a support<br>
+&gt; policy. 3) focus on both (this is my option). There would be 2 levels of<br>
+&gt; support : - top guaranteed support : those are the (few at start) packages<br>
+&gt; your can rely on almost blindly, they&#39;ll be updated in a timely manner,<br>
+&gt; and updates don&#39;t break things. Those are the packages the QA Team puts<br>
+&gt; its limited resources on (doesn&#39;t mean the QA Team provides the support<br>
+&gt; themselves, this is maintainer work, but they check that good support is<br>
+&gt; provided) : testing, helping the maintainers to watch for security<br>
+&gt; problems... The maintainers are responsible for their package, but the QA<br>
+&gt; Team double-checks updates for stable releases. - supported packages<br>
+&gt; (every other package) : those are maintained packages, however the QA Team<br>
+&gt; doesn&#39;t have to check them. It&#39;s up to the maintainer to check the package<br>
+&gt; and updates quality. - unsupported packages are dropped.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Are we heading for 1), 2), 3), or any other option ?<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Of course, with unlimited resources, options 1 and 3 would be equivalent,<br>
+&gt; everything would have the &quot;top guaranteed support&quot; :)<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Best regards<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Samuel Verschelde<br>
+&gt; Packager/QA Team/User<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+having read misc&#39;s lenghty and almost political proposal, i suggest a 4th<br>
+option (even though i&#39;m not part of QAteam either):<br>
+<br>
+4) dynamically distributed focus:<br>
+- level 1: BuildSystem-required packages (all packages used for buildnodes)<br>
+- level 2: everything that is minimally required to boot and do stuff<br>
+- level 3: popular server packages<br>
+- level 4: release focus (everything that&#39;s defaultly installed by a release)<br>
+- level 4b: stage images<br>
+- level 5: the rest<br>
+<br>
+depending on resources and certain timings; focus should be spread according<br>
+to desires at that time.<br>
+<br>
+eg:<br>
+- i imagine that level 1 could be discussed between sysadm and qateam during<br>
+BS-updates<br>
+- i imagine that level 2 would be the primary focus<br>
+- i imagine that level 4 could be more important during release times<br>
+- i imagine that level 5 would probably not be focussed by QA unless unlimited<br>
+resources<br>
+- i imagine that level 3 would probably be good if resources would be growing,<br>
+and possibly level 4 if there&#39;s enough resources.<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+- i agree that testing should be open to anyone<br>
+- i agree that karma could not be a bad idea, but suggest that QAteam give<br>
+more karma (perhaps even on the karmic state of that person)<br>
+- i also would suggest that at the time of alpha release, we should do a<br>
+contest on testing and bugfinding; so that we could gather enough testers; and<br>
+possibly even extra packagers or qateam people.<br>
+<br>
+WDYT?<br>
+</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all">Option 4 sounds good, it also shows a little bit the responsibilities of each team.<br>I would like to add a level 3b which differs between server-only and desktop.<br><br><br>-- <br>
+Mit freundlichen Grüßen<br><br>Greetings<br><br>Daniel Kreuter<br><br><br><br>