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+ <B>AL13N</B>
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+ <I>Thu Mar 28 07:34:41 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>Op woensdag 27 maart 2013 23:12:13 schreef Colin Guthrie:
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+&gt;<i> Are you absolutely sure it's not just apache resetting the value when
+</I>&gt;<i> you don't set CoreDumpDirectory in your httpd.conf?
+</I>
+for me it was with libvirtd and on x86_64 setting coreLIMIT=infinity, made it a
+soft limit to 0; and hard to unlimited, setting it to a lower value worked for
+me. perhaps it was libvirtd doing this itself... allthough that seems
+farfetched... it seemed more likely that setting max number was somehow broken
+in systemd or below...
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+&gt;<i> &gt; moreover, the systemd is compiled without coredump functionality, and that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; seems to have an effect on this and disallows one to configure
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; systemd-coredump (which isn't build nor packaged) for usage with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; integrated coredumps with the systemd-coredump-ctl executable, (which is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packaged).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This was a deliberate decision at the time. There were not sufficient
+</I>&gt;<i> tools to extract coredumps from the journal logs and really the coredump
+</I>&gt;<i> support should be separate from the coredump capturing and logging to
+</I>&gt;<i> the journal anyway, so it shouldn't affect anything you're doing right
+</I>&gt;<i> now (e.g. it shouldn't affect how you setup apache)
+</I>
+ok, but you can package it and not set it to be used...
+
+&gt;<i> The fact that systemd-coredump-ctl is build is IMO a bug, and one that
+</I>&gt;<i> could very well be fixed upstream already (probably is) but I didn't
+</I>&gt;<i> want to keep the rm in the %install section of the spec lest it was
+</I>&gt;<i> accidentally left in there when we turn the feature on (when it's
+</I>&gt;<i> generally more useful - i.e. you can store cores in a directory outside
+</I>&gt;<i> of the journal etc etc.).
+</I>
+perhaps it wouldn't get left as you would have an additional executable, so
+you'd have to change the file sections anyway...
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+[...]
+&gt;<i> As for the core dump support, I would be happy enough re-enabling it
+</I>&gt;<i> again. I'm just not convinced that storing the dumps in the journal is a
+</I>&gt;<i> great idea. I mean if you get a constantly crashing service, your logs
+</I>&gt;<i> will fill up quickly and be rotated away quickly. I think the cores
+</I>&gt;<i> should be stored outside of the journal. I can't remember off hand if
+</I>&gt;<i> the patch that implemented this was finally committed or not - I'll have
+</I>&gt;<i> a look and check.
+</I>
+i'm not saying it should be set as default, but if you have systemd-coredump-
+ctl i think you should also have systemd-coredump ...
+
+and why not provide the service if people want to use it, as long as you don't
+set the /proc thing, it doesn't get used, so...
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