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And you probably need the adequate sysctl setting +</I>>><i> (kernel.core_pattern) to ensure the core file get dumped into a +</I>>><i> predictible directory. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> actually, no, setting LimitCORE=infinity (also our default as shown with +</I>><i> systemctl show *.service) ends up with the actual limit being 0 as shown by +</I>><i> prlimit. (this was with help from #systemd people) +</I> +Can you point at a commit that fixes this then. I'm a little confused as +I've used this setup to happily get segv's from apache (namely php) so +I'm a little confused as to why it doesn't work for you :s + +Even running prlimit here, I don't see a problem: + +[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> scripts (master)]$ ps aux | grep httpd +root 4576 0.0 0.2 413372 21936 ? Ss 19:41 0:00 +/usr/sbin/httpd -DFOREGROUND +apache 4577 0.0 0.3 426024 30288 ? S 19:41 0:00 +/usr/sbin/httpd -DFOREGROUND +apache 4579 0.0 0.1 413804 14408 ? S 19:41 0:00 +/usr/sbin/httpd -DFOREGROUND +apache 4581 0.0 0.1 414012 15680 ? S 19:41 0:00 +/usr/sbin/httpd -DFOREGROUND +apache 4582 0.0 0.1 413804 14312 ? S 19:41 0:00 +/usr/sbin/httpd -DFOREGROUND +apache 4583 0.0 0.1 413812 14380 ? S 19:41 0:00 +/usr/sbin/httpd -DFOREGROUND +apache 4584 0.0 0.4 434512 38160 ? S 19:41 0:00 +/usr/sbin/httpd -DFOREGROUND +apache 4585 0.0 0.4 434488 38140 ? S 19:41 0:00 +/usr/sbin/httpd -DFOREGROUND +apache 4586 0.0 0.1 413804 14344 ? S 19:41 0:00 +/usr/sbin/httpd -DFOREGROUND +[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> scripts (master)]$ prlimit -c -p 4576 +prlimit: failed to get the CORE resource limit: Operation not permitted +[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> scripts (master)]$ sudo prlimit -c -p 4576 +RESOURCE DESCRIPTION SOFT HARD UNITS +CORE max core file size unlimited unlimited blocks +[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> scripts (master)]$ sudo prlimit -c -p 4577 +RESOURCE DESCRIPTION SOFT HARD UNITS +CORE max core file size unlimited unlimited blocks + + + +Are you absolutely sure it's not just apache resetting the value when +you don't set CoreDumpDirectory in your httpd.conf? + + +><i> moreover, the systemd is compiled without coredump functionality, and that +</I>><i> seems to have an effect on this and disallows one to configure systemd-coredump +</I>><i> (which isn't build nor packaged) for usage with integrated coredumps with the +</I>><i> systemd-coredump-ctl executable, (which is packaged). +</I> +This was a deliberate decision at the time. There were not sufficient +tools to extract coredumps from the journal logs and really the coredump +support should be separate from the coredump capturing and logging to +the journal anyway, so it shouldn't affect anything you're doing right +now (e.g. it shouldn't affect how you setup apache) + +The fact that systemd-coredump-ctl is build is IMO a bug, and one that +could very well be fixed upstream already (probably is) but I didn't +want to keep the rm in the %install section of the spec lest it was +accidentally left in there when we turn the feature on (when it's +generally more useful - i.e. you can store cores in a directory outside +of the journal etc etc.). + +><i> @colin, so please, fix these 2 issues (first one looks like a systemd issue; +</I>><i> while the second one is a packaging issue) +</I> +Like I say I've not actually observed the first problem personally, and +have actively gotten core files from apache and my prlimit settings seem +to be different from yours so I'm not really sure what to solve. + + +As for the core dump support, I would be happy enough re-enabling it +again. I'm just not convinced that storing the dumps in the journal is a +great idea. I mean if you get a constantly crashing service, your logs +will fill up quickly and be rotated away quickly. I think the cores +should be stored outside of the journal. I can't remember off hand if +the patch that implemented this was finally committed or not - I'll have +a look and check. + +Col + + + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +colin(at)mageia.org +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A> +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A> + PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A> + Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="023898.html">[Mageia-dev] Apache doesn't always like restarting.... +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="023912.html">[Mageia-dev] Apache doesn't always like restarting.... +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#23907">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#23907">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#23907">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#23907">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |