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The problem with astronomy is that +increasingly it's going over to Macs with all of the problems of +having a "closed and DRM'ed ecosystem" and my goal for this year and +next is to "stop the bleeding." + +The reason astronomers are going over to Macs is that Macs are easy to +use and have a nice environment which astronomers can use when not +doing calculations, and because Macs have very good discounts for +academic users. The problem with Macs is that they are not "hackable" +systems, but for day to day office use, this doesn't matter, and there +is enough of a development environment so that you can use Macs for +"light/middle duty" calculations. + +Linux works the other way. The heavy duty calculations are all on +unix, mainly Linux. The trouble with linux is that they don't have +the easy of use that Macs have. The good news is that in order to be +competitive with Macs, linux boxes need to only have 75% of the easy +of use of Macs for people to use them. The bad news is that its +becoming increasingly hard for astronomy based linux distributions to +have even this. There are several linux distributions geared +specifically toward astronomy (ESO Soft and Scientific Linux). The +trouble is that maintaining a distribution is too much to have +astronomers do since most of the work doesn't involve astronomy. This +means that the specifically astronomy based linux distributions are +starting to be more and more unmaintained, which is why I think it's +necessary to have astronomers "piggy-back" off of existing +distribution development communities. + +One piece of the puzzle that I think it missing are people from the +amateur astronomy. Amateur and professional astronomers end up in +different communities which is bad in this situation since linux +distributions can push professional software tools down to amateurs, +and amateurs have a lot of technical knowledge and people-power that +could be useful for the professional astronomy community. I'm trying +to look for people that have used linux to do backyard telescope +control and image processing. + +The big trend in astronomy is toward "virtual observatories" and I'm +trying to make sure that linux has a seat at the table and doesn't get +overrun by Macs. + +---------- Forwarded message ---------- +From: Joseph Wang <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">joequant at gmail.com</A>> +Date: Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 6:15 PM +Subject: Re: [fedora-astronomy] IRAF RPM spec files +To: Sergio Pascual <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">sergiopr at fedoraproject.org</A>> +Cc: astronomy <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">astronomy at lists.fedoraproject.org</A>>, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">admin at iraf.net</A>, +mageia-dev <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>> + + +Here is the latest set up patches. The main difference is that I +found and fixed some fortran declarations and one very subtle but +nasty segfault in fncache.c. I also changed the compile so that it +uses the system expat and readline. + +The individual checkins are available at + +<A HREF="https://github.com/joequant/iraf">https://github.com/joequant/iraf</A> + +The build file is just a git diff between master and linux-build. + +Let me know if they help the compile.... + +There is one extra patch that isn't used by the spec file which you +can play with. + +I'm in the process of trying to get everything to work with gfortran, +but am running into a lot of subtle memory issues. There is IRAF code +that creates a subsystem for allocating memory and there are a lot of +pointer conversion issues. + +On my machine I got a working RPM -----> + + NOAO/IRAF PC-IRAF Revision 2.16 EXPORT Thu May 24 15:41:17 MST 2012 + This is the EXPORT version of IRAF V2.16 supporting PC systems. + + + Welcome to IRAF. To list the available commands, type ? or ??. To get + detailed information about a command, type `help <command>'. To run a + command or load a package, type its name. Type `bye' to exit a + package, or `logout' to get out of the CL. Type `news' to find out + what is new in the version of the system you are using. + + Visit <A HREF="http://iraf.net">http://iraf.net</A> if you have questions or to report problems. + + The following commands or packages are currently defined: + +Initializing SAMP .... No Hub Available + + dataio. images. lists. obsolete. proto. +system. vo. + dbms. language. noao. plot. softools. utilities. + +vocl> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="023760.html">[Mageia-dev] Fw: Wifi +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="023740.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl-URPM +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#23733">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#23733">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#23733">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#23733">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |