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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] A question about BuildRequires and other RPM questions.</H1>
+ <B>AL13N</B>
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+ <I>Fri Mar 8 13:06:44 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> On 08/03/13 11:18, Robert Wood wrote:
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+&gt;&gt;<i> I still don't get this whole trial and error thing. It seems that you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> might submit something to the repositories that someone finds doesn't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> install because of a missing dependency and you redo it. Then you can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> retry that for up to five goes before it finally works? That seems
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> crazy. I must have misunderstood.
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+well, if we submit packages, the buildsystem uses the buildrequires and
+such to build the packages. if the package fails to build (due to missing
+buildrequire) the package is never submitted and we get an email back to
+us or we can follow the built packages on the buildsystem: see
+<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/</A> for examples.
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+also, buildrequires have nothing to do with regular requires or what
+normal users come into contact with.
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+thus finding buildrequires is trial and error for the packager if he's
+making a new package, but only the first time and even then, after you
+acquire the skillset, this only takes maximum a few hours (unless it's
+java :-) ).
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+but the best way to understand is to just try it.
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+the simplest way to start making a package is to first make a src.rpm out
+of a tarball (with a spec in it) and then rebuild it.
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+1. find a tarball which includes a spec file. (or put one in it)
+2. rpmbuild -ts file.tar.gz
+3. rpmbuild --rebuild file.src.rpm
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+starting small is the way to get there.
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+&gt;&gt;<i> I have no problem learning stuff, I do it every single day in my work
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and it's what makes it so enjoyable, but maybe I need to take smaller
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> steps first? No idea where to start or how to go about doing that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> though. As I might not have any work in a week's time it would
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> potentially be an ideal time to learn, but maybe I'm just not the right
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> person to do this?
+</I>
+a mentor would definately help, i assume noone has stepped forward for you
+yet?
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