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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+ <I>Sun Mar 3 04:42:08 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>Sebastian a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 28/02/13 02:47, andre999 wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I wonder how we could attract more Gnome, erm, gnomes :) to help with
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> packaging?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>...
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm very interested in helping with gnome packaging/development, since
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm a long time user of gnome. (I still have to finish qualifying as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a packager.)
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok awesome that you would like to help package GNOME into Mageia :)!
+</I>
+That's a major reason why I moved to Mageia -- as well as all the
+important mdv contributors that I knew of moving over ...
+
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> BTW, I hope that mga3 sticks with 3.6, at least at first.
+</I>&gt;<i> There is no &quot;at first&quot; it is either released with 3.6.2 and stays using
+</I>&gt;<i> that :( or hopefully uses the GNOME 3.8 series instead for the release :)!
+</I>
+Wasn't there a suggestion of possibly providing gnome 3.8 as an update
+if released with gnome 3.6 ?
+
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Until the &quot;legacy&quot; (classic/fallback) mode is stablised, and hopefully
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that those now using the fallback mode for hardware reasons aren't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> subjected to the snail pace of the current llvm emulation alternative.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I finally saw all of the video of the GNOME talk last night that I
+</I>&gt;<i> missed at FOSDEM, since ended up else where instead:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/fosdem-video/2013/maintracks/Janson/Has_the_GNOME_community_gone_crazy_.webm">http://ftp.heanet.ie/mirrors/fosdem-video/2013/maintracks/Janson/Has_the_GNOME_community_gone_crazy_.webm</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> If people watch from 29:50 the new classic mode gets mentioend again,
+</I>&gt;<i> followed by how GNOME should work well enough now for most users without
+</I>&gt;<i> 3D acceleration as well. Before that section is also the part about how
+</I>&gt;<i> GNOME uses SystemD now to an extent, but it can work without that as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As for llmpipe I have not had loads of slowness with it when running
+</I>&gt;<i> GNOME Shell.
+</I>
+On my previous computer running mga2 with gnome 3.6, a portable without
+3D acceleration, a 80x24 text page in the console took about 30 seconds
+to display in gnome shell using llvmpipe -- definitely a show-stopper
+Under gnome-classic, typically maybe a second to display the same page.
+However if this problem is resolved, and the option of legacy mode is
+available as an option at login, I agree that it would be a good idea to
+release mga3 with gnome 3.8
+The same computer could fairly quickly build (smaller) packages, so it
+had enough power for normal use.
+(Until disk failure in November. I haven't found a physically
+compatible replacement disk.)
+My replacement computer has 3D acceleration, so it doesn't need
+llvmpipe. (But I still use classic mode, which I reconfigure to have a
+single bar on top.)
+
+Recently I noticed that gnome-shell is called mobile or iphone or tablet
+mode by a number of commentators. It certainly doesn't seem appropriate
+for desktop or laptop usage.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Andre by the way in your other email to this thread your message didn't
+</I>&gt;<i> seem to show.
+</I>
+I had accidently double-clicked when opening the previous email :/
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
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