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+ <B>Frank Griffin</B>
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+<PRE>On 01/28/2013 06:44 PM, Barry Jackson wrote:
+&gt;<i> My limited understanding is that the code in the 512 byte PBR has to
+</I>&gt;<i> use block lists to find the core image in /boot, since it is too small
+</I>&gt;<i> to understand filesystems. This is fragile in that filesystems and
+</I>&gt;<i> file utilities may move files around on disk invalidating the block
+</I>&gt;<i> lists, and for this reason the method is discouraged.
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+</I>&gt;<i> A far as I know the same potential problem exists with grub legacy.
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+OK, we've come full circle. This is why I was used to rerunning
+install.sh, because historically this has been true of most
+bootloaders. They all have to fit in 512 bytes, and they all have to
+load the next stage of the boot without support for filesystems.
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+That's why I stick with chainloading. PBRs don't move around at the
+whim of a filesystem, and if you do something to a root partition that
+repositions something critical, you just rebuild the PBR as part of it.
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+I wasn't aware of the MBR gap. I guess you're saying that the core.img
+that fits in it *is* filesystem-aware ? Otherwise, it seems like you've
+just pushed the locate-the-next-stage vulnerability from the MBR to the
+MBR gap, as chainloading pushes it from the MBR to the PBR.
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+Anyway, my point still stands: for anyone who just wants to have grub
+and grub2 partitons coexist on the same disk with either one in the MBR,
+chainloading will accomplish this without any downside that isn't
+already present in grub legacy. Grub2 may be the way of the future, but
+to *require* it to own the MBR is just misleading.
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