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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] Proposal for Gstreamer 1.0 packaging: tainted version should require the tainted specific plugins</H1>
+ <B>Christiaan Welvaart</B>
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+ <I>Tue Jan 29 00:27:26 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Olav Vitters wrote:
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+&gt;<i> To allow Totem to play back any file, in practice you want to install
+</I>&gt;<i> GStreamer 1.0 from the tainted section.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ideally to play back a lot of files, you'll want:
+</I>&gt;<i> gstreamer1.0-dts
+</I>&gt;<i> gstreamer1.0-faad
+</I>&gt;<i> gstreamer1.0-x264
+</I>&gt;<i> gstreamer1.0-amrwbdec
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However, I cannot rely on those in totem.spec, because they are in the
+</I>&gt;<i> tainted section.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I see two ways of solving this:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Building a non-tainted and a tainted totem
+</I>&gt;<i> The tainted one has Requires: for the tainted gstreamer 1.0 packages
+</I>&gt;<i> you'll very likely want.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Benefit:
+</I>&gt;<i> - Avoids Gstreamer 1.0 plugin packages from depending on lots of
+</I>&gt;<i> other packages
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Drawback:
+</I>&gt;<i> - Has to be repeated for every video player that uses GStreamer
+</I>&gt;<i> - Tracking subpackages can be difficult
+</I>&gt;<i> - Totem tainted version has a lot more dependencies
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. Ensure that installing the tainted gstreamer1.0 plugin packages
+</I>&gt;<i> installs all related tainted plugin packages
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Example:
+</I>&gt;<i> gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad package in tainted should have:
+</I>&gt;<i> Requires: gstreamer1.0-dts
+</I>&gt;<i> Requires: gstreamer1.0-faad
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Due to subpackages possibly being moved in and out of the tainted
+</I>&gt;<i> section, the only thing I want to change is the Requires. I'm not
+</I>&gt;<i> planning to merge the subpackage.. even if it maybe is a little bit
+</I>&gt;<i> weird to have the main package always require the subpackage.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Benefit:
+</I>&gt;<i> - Ensures that enabling tainted section makes video playing 'work'
+</I>&gt;<i> in any player that uses GStreamer
+</I>&gt;<i> - List of subpackages is maintained in just one place
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Drawback:
+</I>&gt;<i> - Increases the size + dependencies of the tainted gstreamer
+</I>&gt;<i> subpackage
+</I>&gt;<i> - Cannot just install just one tainted subpackage, have to install
+</I>&gt;<i> them all at once
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think #2 is the best option. If someone enables tainted, then likely
+</I>&gt;<i> they just want video playing to work. Furthermore, this avoids changing
+</I>&gt;<i> all the video players which could use GStreamer.
+</I>
+Have you noticed gstreamer0.10-decoders and gstreamer0.10-decoders-audio ?
+Those can do the same as your point 2. but for all plugins independent of
+the source packages. So basically task- packages for gstreamer plugins
+that totem, other players and transcoders/editors can use.
+
+That way you get meta packages for demuxers, muxers, audio-decoders,
+audio-encoders, video-decoders, and video-encoders which depend on the
+standard/typical plugins.
+
+
+ Christiaan
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