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+ <B>Barry Jackson</B>
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+<PRE>On 21/01/13 00:01, Frank Griffin wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 01/20/2013 02:58 PM, Maurice Batey wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:04:32 +0200, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/grub2/current/SOURCES/README.Mageia?view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/grub2/current/SOURCES/README.Mageia?view=markup</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Many thanks, Thomas!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Look, I don't don't want to restate the obvious, but you *do* realize
+</I>&gt;<i> that in order for chainloader to work, you actually have to install the
+</I>&gt;<i> secondary bootloader on the PBR of its owing partition ? You can't just
+</I>&gt;<i> have installed grub on your MBR at some point in the past, then install
+</I>&gt;<i> grub2 (or anything else, for that matter) on the MBR again, and expect
+</I>&gt;<i> your original partitions to boot ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In MGA install terms, and specific to the case of grub2 on the MBR
+</I>&gt;<i> trying to boot grub on a PBR, you have to boot the grub partition (or do
+</I>&gt;<i> the boot-elsewhere/chroot thing), modify the /boot/grub/install.sh to
+</I>&gt;<i> not target the MBR (stage2=(hd0)) but indicate the PBR (stage2=(hd0,x))
+</I>&gt;<i> and rerun install.sh to install grub on the PBR.
+</I>Err...
+
+# grub
+root (hdx,y)
+setup (hdx,y)
+quit
+
+Job done - there is no need to touch install.sh
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In terms of the install paradigm, you have to choose to install the
+</I>&gt;<i> bootloader to the PBR (sdaX) rather than the MBR (sda). Otherwise, when
+</I>&gt;<i> the MBR bootloader, whether grub2 or grub, boots and chains to the PBR
+</I>&gt;<i> of the desired partition, there won't be anything there in the PBR to boot.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>True, except as below...
+
+&gt;<i> If you need clarification on this, ask, and give specifics. The
+</I>&gt;<i> objective of chainloading is to have each PBR (partition) behave as if
+</I>&gt;<i> it is its own MBR. If you try to point grub2 menu entries to native
+</I>&gt;<i> partiton grub files, or vice versa, you are just asking for trouble. The
+</I>&gt;<i> clean way to do it is to use chainloading to link the MBR (whatever it
+</I>&gt;<i> is) to the PBR (whatever it is), and let the PBR do the bootloading for
+</I>&gt;<i> its own partition according to its own needs.
+</I>
+...this is where we disagree slightly ;)
+Chainloading into grub2 is not the best way, due to the block lists
+problem people keep mentioning and complaining about.
+Grub2 can install it's kernel in the root filesystem which can be booted
+directly. Installing the grub2 package, whether during install or later
+automatically builds /boot/grub/i386-pc/core.img and also creates a
+grub.cfg ready for use.
+Chanloading is un-necessary since an entry in menu.lst on a legacy
+system will boot a grub2 Mageia system using:
+
+ title Mageia via GRUB 2
+ root (hdx,y)
+ kernel /boot/grub2/i386-pc/core.img
+
+...as explained in the above README.Mageia
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you do it this way, you can install whatever you want as a bootloader
+</I>&gt;<i> on the MBR, and each partition can have whatever BIOS-compliant
+</I>&gt;<i> bootloader it wants, including grub, grub2, lilo, OS/2, DOS, or Wndows.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Yes, I use a small grub2 partition sda1 as &quot;master&quot;.
+To boot into Mageia grub2 systems I use the grub2 multiboot command:
+
+ menuentry 'Mageia-3 multi sda6' {
+ search --no-floppy --label --set=root mageia-3
+ multiboot /boot/grub2/i386-pc/core.img
+ }
+
+So IMO all of the FUD about &quot;you can't install grub2 to the PBR&quot; is
+pointless since it's just not necessary.
+
+My 2 cents ;)
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