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Here's a (not so) quick review of my installation. +As I wanted something modern, simple and performant, I decided to give a +try to btrfs as my root partition without separated /boot (hence why I +was a waiting beta1 for GRUB2) nor /var and, of course these days, no +/usr neither. My /home remains in ext4, as I'm aware of the btrfs' fsck +not considered as something reliable enough... + +First of all, I've noticed that when you choose a customized size for a +partition, each time you edit the size (resize button) of a partition +and then cancel without any change, the size is decremented by a couple +of MB. Not a blocking bug though, but it should be fixed, IMHO. +I've also noticed that the installer hasn't automatically proposed GRUB2 +as the default bootloader, whereas my root partition wasn't accessible +from GRUB legacy and I had no independent ext3 /boot. Of course, this +shouldn't be a problem if GRUB2 becomes the default bootloader for the +final mga3... +The rest of the installation went seamlessly and brought me to GDM. + +However, after the installation there were some "anomalies": + +- my kernel was the server version one (kernel-server), even though I +haven't selected any server configuration ; + +- more annoying, there was no syslog daemon and I had to install rsyslog +by myself. It seems that none of the core packages is requiring a syslog +daemon (unless systemd is supposed to handle the syslog in a way I'm not +aware of); + +- I was unable to mount a CD/DVD as a normal user, but only as root. A +really annoying bug (#8405) for end users IMHO, but I finally found a +simple stupid solution: get rid of the cdrom entry generated in the +fstab and let the magic udev/udisks do the trick! This cdrom entry +should probably not be generated by the installer anymore... + +- I own a DVB card, but its firmware (dvb-fe-tda10046.fw) is not +provided by any mga package. We used to find it in a Mandriva PLF rpm +before. It would be nice for end users to find it in a Mageia package +somehow. Moreover, the module and its dependencies (saa7134, +saa7134_dvb, saa7134_alsa) don't work after resuming from suspend. +Unfortunately, a dedicated script in /etc/pm/sleep.d/ doesn't help since +it doesn't seem to be called. But anyway, this bug should have been +fixed for a long time as a patch has been proposed to the kernel +subsystem maintainer (Mauro Carvalho Chehab), but... see the most +interesting part of the story here: +<A HREF="http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.video-input-infrastructure/46854">http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.video-input-infrastructure/46854</A> +Perhaps Thomas, our dear kernel master, could include it in the next mga +kernel, so I could give my feedback on the patch?... + +- Another very annoying thing too is that some packages (easytag, and +also thunar when installing XFCE although you choose nautilus as your +favorite filemanager) are replacing Nautilus for handling folders and +mounted removable drives (SDcard, USB key...). The fix is to remove +these "inode/directory" entries of the desktop files in +/usr/share/applications/ and also from +/usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache (or at least put nautilus.desktop +as the first one in mimeinfo.cache) ; + +- Still no easy way to convert my Bluetooth DiNovo keyboard & mouse +combo into a generic purpose Bluetooth receiver (the usual fix doesn't +work at all: neither hiddev* nor hidraw* in +/lib/udev/rules.d/97-bluetooth-hid2hci.rules is working anymore)... + +- Default GTK+ configuration seems to be "non standard" (gtk-theme-name +is set to oxygen-gtk and gtk-icon-theme-name is set to oxygen-gtk both +in /etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc/ and /etc/gtk-3.0/settings.ini instead of +respectively "Adwaita" and "gnome") causing some glitches (for example, +when you change the volume with mutimedia keys, the OSD sound volume +background image is missing and replaced by an ugly gray) ; + +- grub2 + early plymouth experience remains not very good, we are still +far from a flicker free boot. Resolutions are limited to 4:3 ratios and +up to 1600×1200 (my display is a 16:10 1920×1200 driven by a free r300g +KMS driver), but I guess this kind of things belongs to upstream. For +instance, although grub2 is configured as graphical and quiet, I'm still +seeing some text mode screens during the boot. Isn't plymouth supposed +to avoid it? + +- mediatomb has to be patched in order to work with the recent Samsung +SmartTV models (2012 "E" series like the UE46E7000). I've rebuilt our +latest package applying the patch (found here: +<A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3532724&group_id=129766&atid=715782">http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3532724&group_id=129766&atid=715782</A>) +and, after some tweakings in the config file (custom_header and changes +for mkv mime-type) and the firewall rules, it now plays successfully +everything I tested. + +- GDM dialogs (or pam ones) are still not localized (passord, login +errors...), but I guess it's normal for a beta1... + +Last thing, I think it would be smart to install or suggest, some +packages that could be considered essential to any kind of installation +(at least those connected to a network, i.e. 99.9%). For instance: +- bash-completion; +- ntp; +- ssh. + +Please, let me know which of the reported problems deserve some bugzilla +entries. And I apologize if you think my post is too long or irrelevant +for this mailing list. + +HTH, + +Davy + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="021734.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push: glusterfs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="021733.html">[Mageia-dev] Feedback on Mageia 3 beta1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#21728">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#21728">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#21728">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#21728">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |