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+ <B>AL13N</B>
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+ <I>Wed Jan 16 21:06:10 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>Op woensdag 16 januari 2013 17:43:36 schreef Thomas Backlund:
+&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie skrev 16.1.2013 17:34:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 'Twas brillig, and <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mustafaa1987 at yahoo.com</A> at 16/01/13 15:18 did gyre and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 05:56:34 PM Mustafa Muhammad wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; On 01/15/2013 03:42 PM, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Mustafaa Al-Hamdaani skrev 15.1.2013 14:35:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Are features still accepted for Mageia 3? I have these three:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 1) Enable vertical two finger scrolling by default, simple but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; important.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 2) Desktop greeter (like kaptan of pardus or its fork for Chakra,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; kapudan):
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.chakra-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Kapudan">http://www.chakra-linux.org/wiki/index.php/Kapudan</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 3) catalyst-legacy for AMD cards 4xxx and before.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; This one depends on AMD.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; They have not released any legacy driver since 12.6 last summer,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and that is not supporting x11-server 1.13 we use.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; I know, I just hoped we can ship x11-server 1.12 and 1.13 and only one
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; of them is installed, the power consumption with the open source drivers
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; is just insane, especially for a laptop (and the quality too).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I asked yesterday and the answer was &quot;too late&quot;, but if this is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; technically
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; possible, I think it will make a huge difference for a big number of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; users, maybe 25% of all users use those AMD cards, so please would you
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; reconsider shipping catalyst-legacy if it is technically feasible.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; For such a benefit for the community, I think it worth considering (from
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; catalyst maintainer and others).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Being realistic, shipping two x servers is simply not going to happen in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> or ever...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It'll need lots of extra work including more h/w detection and automatic
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; installation of the legacy x server (assuming the user wants the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; proprietary drivers only, the free drivers will of course want the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; latest xserver instead).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I feel it's just too much complication at this late stage to do this.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is way too much stuff integrated / interacting with x11-server,
+</I>&gt;<i> to sanely provide 2 of them without introducing regressions on
+</I>&gt;<i> either side...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Perhaps someone can do some clever edits on the binaries to make them
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; work with the newer xserver...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nope. No can do... that would violate the license.
+</I>
+it's sad, i too have one that's just not supported by AMD anymore, but that's
+simply the way it is... AMD doesn't think 3y old hardware needs to be
+supported, you need to buy new stuff instead... :-(
+
+i found it annoying, but ah well, i'm just running it with open source driver
+on my media center, and at least the video performence is adequate...
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