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It is now +</I>>>>>>><i> declared as stable. +</I>>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>>><i> But apache mpm-prefork starts with php compiled treadsafe apache +</I>>>>>>><i> mpm-worker doesn't start with php compiled none-treadsafe +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>><i> You can run PHP with apache2-mpm-worker with mod_fcgid and php5-cgi or +</I>>>>>><i> php5-fpm. +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>><i> This is what Debian Wheezy's README file for php says: +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>><i> Using PHP 5 with threaded webservers (e.g. apache2-mpm-worker) +</I>>>>>><i> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>><i> After much back-and-forth with upstream (and even building our +</I>>>>>><i> packages thread-safe for a while), we're currently admitting defeat +</I>>>>>><i> on that front, and are NOT building any thread-safe versions of PHP +</I>>>>>><i> 5 for any webservers. Our recommendation is that, if you need to use +</I>>>>>><i> a threaded webserver, you should use php5-fpm and interface to your +</I>>>>>><i> webserver with FastCGI. +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>><i> I think Mageia is hurting itself by enabling too experimental features. +</I>>>>>><i> Another example is the uas kernel module, of which I saw a complaint +</I>>>>>><i> recently in this mailing list. This module is known to be buggy, and +</I>>>>>><i> disabled in Debian. +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> +1 +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> That's what Oden told me yesterday on IRC. +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> So as current php maintainer I vote against enabling this. +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> Oliver +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> I guess I then will revert it to NTS. +</I>>>><i> Fedora builds it with both options. But it may be too late now going that +</I>>>><i> way. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> FWIW, over the last few days I've had to rebuild several PHP modules to +</I>>><i> get my system working properly. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> A couple days ago I had to rebuild both php-memcached and php-redis. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Today I've had to rebuild php-memcached, php-redis and php-timezonedb. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I'm not against enabling features etc. to try them out but when doing so +</I>>><i> care really should be taken to rebuild all affected PHP modules not just +</I>>><i> the core ones. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Thanks. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Col +</I> +><i> Why did you have to rebuild them as a result of the new features? TS has been reverted to NTS so, +</I>><i> there are no new features. +</I> +For php-timezonedb it specifically mentioned that it was built against +the TS version where as the core PHP was NTS (TS vs NTS in the build ids +it was comparing). + + +For the other two, they complained about missing symbols when the TS +version appeared. I forget the symbol itself but it was mentioned +global_config. + +They had the same error today (presumably after reverting) so had to +rebuild again. + +I guess enabling TS vs. NTS changes things more subtly than it might appear. + +Easy enough to reproduce - just install them and run "php -v" on the +command line to see the list of errors. + +Col + + + + + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +colin(at)mageia.org +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A> +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A> + PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A> + Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A> +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="021449.html">[Mageia-dev] PHP treadsafe +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="021470.html">[Mageia-dev] PHP treadsafe +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#21450">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#21450">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#21450">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#21450">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |