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+ <B>Thomas Spuhler</B>
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+ <I>Fri Jan 11 15:25:08 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>On Friday, January 11, 2013 03:21:52 AM Colin Guthrie wrote:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 08/01/13 14:25 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Tuesday, January 08, 2013 04:36:26 AM Oliver Burger wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Am 08.01.2013 11:04, schrieb Frederik Himpe:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; On Sat, 05 Jan 2013 10:20:35 -0700, Thomas Spuhler wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; If nobody objects I am going to rebuild php treadsafe
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; (--enable-maintainer-zts)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; it is needed for running apache with mpm-module-worker instead of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; prefork and php apache module worker is needed by 389-ds. It is now
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; declared as stable.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; But apache mpm-prefork starts with php compiled treadsafe apache
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; mpm-worker doesn't start with php compiled none-treadsafe
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; You can run PHP with apache2-mpm-worker with mod_fcgid and php5-cgi or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; php5-fpm.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; This is what Debian Wheezy's README file for php says:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Using PHP 5 with threaded webservers (e.g. apache2-mpm-worker)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; ----------------------------------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; After much back-and-forth with upstream (and even building our
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; packages thread-safe for a while), we're currently admitting defeat
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; on that front, and are NOT building any thread-safe versions of PHP
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 5 for any webservers. Our recommendation is that, if you need to use
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; a threaded webserver, you should use php5-fpm and interface to your
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; webserver with FastCGI.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; I think Mageia is hurting itself by enabling too experimental features.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Another example is the uas kernel module, of which I saw a complaint
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; recently in this mailing list. This module is known to be buggy, and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; disabled in Debian.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; +1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; That's what Oden told me yesterday on IRC.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; So as current php maintainer I vote against enabling this.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I guess I then will revert it to NTS.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Fedora builds it with both options. But it may be too late now going that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; way.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> FWIW, over the last few days I've had to rebuild several PHP modules to
+</I>&gt;<i> get my system working properly.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A couple days ago I had to rebuild both php-memcached and php-redis.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Today I've had to rebuild php-memcached, php-redis and php-timezonedb.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not against enabling features etc. to try them out but when doing so
+</I>&gt;<i> care really should be taken to rebuild all affected PHP modules not just
+</I>&gt;<i> the core ones.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>Why did you have to rebuild them as a result of the new features? TS has been reverted to NTS so,
+there are no new features.
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+Best regards
+Thomas Spuhler
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