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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] A question about BuildRequires and other RPM questions.</H1>
+ <B>AL13N</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] A question about BuildRequires and other RPM questions.">alien at rmail.be
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+ <I>Thu Feb 28 16:59:10 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>Op donderdag 28 februari 2013 15:43:22 schreef Robert Wood:
+&gt;<i> On 28/02/13 14:25, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; There is not much choice, beside building from a specified build
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; environment, which is usually the minimal installation for your target
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; distribution + rpmbuild. Most distributions use dedicated systems to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; automatically deploy such clean environment before eac package build
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; attempt (iurt, mock, etc...).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, I should maybe install a minimal install on a virtual machine? Then
+</I>&gt;<i> when it needs packages I can add those to the dependencies list? It
+</I>&gt;<i> strikes me the problem with that would be that once you've added a load
+</I>&gt;<i> of packages for one RPM, then started on another, you'd be back to the
+</I>&gt;<i> same problem as before and need to keep reinstalling Mageia for each RPM
+</I>&gt;<i> you do. There must be a better way than that.
+</I>
+i myself have made a script that uses a minimal install btrfs subvolume, makes
+a snapshots for this package, then builds the rpm in a screen session, then
+removes the snapshot again.
+
+i use this script mostly for testbuilding on my local machine.
+
+in the past i just submitted it to the buildsystem (to updates_testing) when i
+was done working on it, and if it failed, i added some extra buildrequires,
+until it built, after that i did a final test
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Build dependencies are usually specified in installation instructions.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; For humans, of course. You may also try to parse the outpout of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ./configure (or equivalent) script. In both case, there is not garanty
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; then every build dependency will get specified.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It sounds like there is a load of trial and error then? I am sure I must
+</I>&gt;<i> misunderstand, building reliable RPMs must be a relatively
+</I>&gt;<i> straightforward thing once you're up and running surely?
+</I>
+trial and error for buildrequires yes, mostly for new packages, if you're
+updateing packages, you sort of know more about the package and if it has
+extra builddependencies, the BS will tell you this.
+
+so, in short for new packages you can have some trial and error (usually no
+more than 5 or 6 tries, wrt buildrequires).
+
+it's not such a big deal...
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