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+ <B>Christiaan Welvaart</B>
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+<PRE>On Sun, 24 Feb 2013, Sebastian wrote:
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Not to mention there is serious doubts the the 3.8.0 release
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> will be good enough to work properly for all endusers when the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fallback is dropped, so it would need atleast a update to 3.8.x
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> as a followup later to provide something that actually works,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wich comes back to lack of maintainers...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't think Mageia providing GNOME 3.8 with the new classic mode made using
+</I>&gt;<i> extensions, rather than the old fall back mode, would cause loads of
+</I>&gt;<i> problems: <A HREF="http://worldofgnome.org/gnome-classic-not-classic-all/">http://worldofgnome.org/gnome-classic-not-classic-all/</A>
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+You are not making sense, those screenshots show that these gnome-shell
+extensions can't replace gnome-panel. Also, software 3D rendering is slow,
+you do not want to use it in a VM. However, we may be able to keep our
+&quot;GNOME Classic&quot; session using gnome-panel 3.6.x even with gnome 3.8. This
+would have to be tested, though. Do you even use it?
+
+Shouldn't we first fix totem, for example? It has 2 menu bars: &quot;Videos&quot;
+and &quot;Movie/Edit/...&quot;. Then, audio files stop playing after 1 second when
+&quot;visual effects&quot; are enabled. 5.1 channel audio also doesn't work right,
+but the same happens in parole (vlc and mplayer do proper downmixing).
+
+Finally, totem can't play WMA files because of ffmpeg 1.1. I have a fix
+for that ready (update gstreamer1.0-libav to git HEAD) but maybe I need to
+worry about gnome 3.8 instead. Such an update at this time should be done
+properly: packaged and tested on the packager's machine first, and only
+when it all works committed to svn and uploaded. But even then we will
+likely find new problems that need to be fixed before release.
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+ Christiaan
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