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+ <B>Sebastian</B>
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not to mention there is serious doubts the the 3.8.0 release
+</I>&gt;<i> will be good enough to work properly for all endusers when the
+</I>&gt;<i> fallback is dropped, so it would need atleast a update to 3.8.x
+</I>&gt;<i> as a followup later to provide something that actually works,
+</I>&gt;<i> wich comes back to lack of maintainers...
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+I don't think Mageia providing GNOME 3.8 with the new classic mode made
+using extensions, rather than the old fall back mode, would cause loads
+of problems: <A HREF="http://worldofgnome.org/gnome-classic-not-classic-all/">http://worldofgnome.org/gnome-classic-not-classic-all/</A>
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+Mageia doesn't have Unity for example which actually uses some things
+from the fall back mode, and as a result I think Ubuntu 13.04 staying
+with GNOME 3.6.2 rather than going 3.8 is a rather valid reason for them
+to do so.
+
+Originally Mageia 3 was going to come out on March 20th, which caused an
+issue all along when it came to what GNOME version it would be released
+with, since GNOME 3.8 is scheduled for release on March 27th. However
+then the release scheduled changed to April 2nd/3rd and then once again
+to the 3rd of May. 3rd of May would actually provide enough time to get
+a GNOME 3.8 point release or two in there as well, as long as Olav or
+whoever is willing or able to package it does the work, and QA is
+willing to test it properly for example. Well I joined QA myself to
+test pre release ISO's with GNOME and such at times :). I know that in
+general people from the QA team, are quite willing to test out GNOME
+versions when it's time to test one, even if they don't personally use
+GNOME as their DE of choice.
+
+Also KDE will be released with the latest stable final KDE version at
+the time of Mageia 3's release, so why not GNOME aswell? Also I thought
+that was the idea that both KDE and GNOME would get an exception for
+version freeze, so that Mageia could be released with the latest stable
+version at the time, of when the next Mageia version is going to be
+released?
+
+Really the GNOME 3.8 proposal should be discussed again, and both myself
+and someone else from the QA team, think that the next council meeting
+which is scheduled for tommorow would be a good idea. Obviosuly Olav
+should be in such a disucssion if one is going to happen in the council
+or packagers meeting for example.
+
+Personally I think in general it's a bad thing to release a distro with
+a over six months old version of a major upstream project such as GNOME
+or KDE, unless there is a proper valid reason to do so, such as the
+Ubuntu and Unity example.
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