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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+ <I>Thu Feb 21 11:08:40 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 21/02/13 09:08 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;&gt;<i> So you are making the same mess for upcoming mga3, that is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> also in mga2 updates svn, making everyone elses work harder,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> when svn does not match what's on mirrors... this is painful
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for QA and security maintenance...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Apologies for trying to provide a new GNOME as requested _on_my_own_ and
+</I>&gt;<i> not finishing it. Not what I wanted, but not done on purpose.
+</I>
+Mistakes happen. But we do need to ensure things are tidied up properly
+with appropriate svn revprops to silence the old commit messages to
+prevent them making it into built RPM changelogs.
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Automated scripts can be ok during open cauldron, but _never_
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> when we try to stabilize for a release.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Meanwhile, Mageia 3 keeps getting delayed and delayed and not due to me.
+</I>
+No, but that's hardly relevant here. You were involved in the general
+decision for 3.6 in mga3. If you would like to propose a change to that,
+that's fine - it can be discussed, but it's not really the right thread
+to do that on.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> So ... once again... please kill the script, clean up svn,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> revert packages to latest stable, and try to focus on providing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a good / fully updated Gnome 3.6 will be available for Mga3.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I rather take a break from Mageia.
+</I>
+Please don't! We obviously value your work, but it would be really
+amazing if you could be a little more careful with the automated stuff
+especially at this stage and put more time into the polishing. It's what
+we all have to do - it's not always fun, but it's part of the process.
+
+&gt;<i> And I hate these personal email habits. CC'ing mageia-dev.
+</I>
+That's fine. I presume Thomas just wanted to let you know in private
+rather than posting something perhaps evocative on the public list.
+Sometimes it's better for people to get such mails in private because it
+then avoids them being embarrassed by a bug or mistake. Obviously in
+this case, you prefer it to be in public and that is fine :)
+
+Please keep up the good work. But yeah, please also kill the script for
+the time being while freeze is in effect :D
+
+Col
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
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+Open Source:
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