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Pushing always more stuff 'by default' doesn't help +</I>>><i> users to make educated choices. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On one hand I agree, on the other hand - we want a distribution which +</I>><i> simply works and common choices are made (like which firewall) from the +</I>><i> distro side - a good enough Sysadmin can then change to his/her liking +</I>><i> afterwards. This is more or less a distro "philosophy" question, but +</I>><i> look why "Mint" has become so popular - because many choices are made +</I>><i> upfront for the user - yet the flexibility is in the system (and enough +</I>><i> packages) for an advanced user to change them! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As long as the default settings are documented upfront - I see no issue +</I>><i> in making such a decision on behalf of the "average" user - and making a +</I>><i> more security robust distribution. +</I> +Yup, I agree with this. + +I'm know my way around sufficiently that I can happily change the stuff +I don't like. + +I think we do have to pick reasonably sensible defaults. Ultimately +that's what msec does too - defines sensible defaults for the security +level picked. + +So overall I'd welcome a default setup that allows things to be more +secure/robust by default (obviously balanced against user experience - +e.g. a *very* secure setup would be to ban all traffic in or out... but +that's not a nice user experience :D). + +Col + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +colin(at)mageia.org +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A> +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A> + PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A> + Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="022971.html">[Mageia-dev] Fail2Ban vs Blockhosts vs DenyHosts vs iptable throttle for SSH +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="022973.html">[Mageia-dev] Fail2Ban vs Blockhosts vs DenyHosts vs iptable throttle for SSH +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#22972">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#22972">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#22972">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#22972">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |