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+ <B>Robert Fox</B>
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+ <I>Tue Feb 19 12:45:23 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 12:35 +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 19/02/2013 12:20, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">finid at linuxbsdos.com</A> a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If that's how you feel about having a program like DenyHosts running by
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; default, do you feel the same way about having a firewall running and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; configured out of the box.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Is a firewall a sysadmin's or packager's choice?
+</I>&gt;<i> A sysadmin choice. Pushing always more stuff 'by default' doesn't help
+</I>&gt;<i> users to make educated choices.
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+On one hand I agree, on the other hand - we want a distribution which
+simply works and common choices are made (like which firewall) from the
+distro side - a good enough Sysadmin can then change to his/her liking
+afterwards. This is more or less a distro &quot;philosophy&quot; question, but
+look why &quot;Mint&quot; has become so popular - because many choices are made
+upfront for the user - yet the flexibility is in the system (and enough
+packages) for an advanced user to change them!
+
+As long as the default settings are documented upfront - I see no issue
+in making such a decision on behalf of the &quot;average&quot; user - and making a
+more security robust distribution.
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+BTW, there is no Mageia package for BlockHosts - but fail2ban and
+DenyHosts there are packages . . .
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+Cheers,
+Robert
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