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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and David Walser at 06/02/13 18:28 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oh, for the avoidance of doubt, I don't think there is any argument that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> would suggest the removal from the repositories or obsoletion of rsyslog
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> or syslog-ng etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree, and that's consistent with what you've said in the past. I thought
+</I>&gt;<i> it was odd that the idea of obsoleting them came up yesterday in the packager
+</I>&gt;<i> meeting, but it did. The main reason was wanting to know if rsyslog should
+</I>&gt;<i> still be on the DVD, in case of users using it to upgrade from Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It may be the case that not upgrading that particular package during the DVD
+</I>&gt;<i> upgrade won't *break* anything and it can just be upgraded after the system
+</I>&gt;<i> is booted and urpmi sources are added, in which case it doesn't *need* to be
+</I>&gt;<i> on the DVD. Otherwise, we should make sure it's on there.
+</I>
+What I guess we could to to avoid putting rsyslog on the physical media
+would be to put a versioned conflicts in the main systemd package with
+rsyslog and syslog-ng. Thus the old packages should be removed when
+upgrading (AIUI).
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+Col
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