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+ <B>Olav Vitters</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] [RFC] rsyslog vs journalctl">olav at vitters.nl
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+ <I>Wed Feb 6 10:44:44 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 10:35:12AM +0100, EatDirt wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 06/02/13 09:52, Olav Vitters wrote:
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;By default Mageia 3 should only have journalctl. Optionally you can
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;still install rsyslog. Any syslog package will store the same
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;information as journalctl does. Installing this by default provides
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;little benefit, so it was decided that we only do journalctl by default.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;If installed, you double the storage used for logs.
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+</I>&gt;<i> Something I mentioned a while ago is the memory resources taken by
+</I>&gt;<i> systemd-journald vs rsyslog; it is an order of magnitude greater.
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+</I>&gt;<i> We don't care with modern machines, but I would let the option
+</I>&gt;<i> available for old small RAM computers (or reduce the systemd-journal
+</I>&gt;<i> mem resources).
+</I>
+Are you sure that there still is a problem? There were some bugs that
+have been fixed months ago. Aside from that the memory usage could be
+off as journal uses mmap.
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+But systemd always uses the journal (not runtime configurable IIRC), so
+best to make it efficient. It should also somehow be low maintenance.
+Meaning: maybe it will use less memory when there is less available
+(guessing)?
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+--
+Regards,
+Olav
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