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They do the same thing loaded via Grub2 as when +</I>>><i> loaded via Grub Legacy. +</I> +>>>><i> 8-KDM is on tty2, the location I reserve for certain class of recurring +</I>>>>><i> activities, instead of where expected on tty7 +</I> +>>><i> Dunno - I have never seen this. +</I> +>><i> Booting with 3 on cmdline and later doing startx or init 5? +</I> +><i> I think that startx and init are deprecated in favour of proper systemd +</I>><i> commands now. +</I> +Init at shell prompt is shorthand/alias for insanely long non-memorable +systemd replacements for telinit/init. + +Startx may be deprecated, but no one who's told me so has suggested what's +supposed to replace it to get 2nd, 3rd & more X sessions going on :1, :2, etc. + +Startkde never seems to work at a tty prompt. When I'm testing what I often +test, startx saves an immense amount of time over going though a login +manager, which often wasn't working and why I was using startx in the first +place. + +>><i> On current +</I>>><i> boot I used 3 on cmdline, logged in on tty2 & tty3, did startx on tty3, +</I>>><i> and found X is running on tty3. On exiting the X session I did init 5. +</I>>><i> That put KDM on tty1. On openSUSE & Fedora the problem is essentially +</I>>><i> the same, e.g.: <A HREF="https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=768788">https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=768788</A> +</I> +><i> I don't think this is grub2 related. +</I> +Of course it's not. It's fallout from incomplete migration from sysvinit to +systemd. Systemd is designed to not do a significant number of things that +sysvinit did do, so things are broken that haven't been modified to do what +the functioning init system no longer does, or account for everything the +replacement init system does differently. + +><i> Graphical desktop should default to tty1 now +</I> +I have predfined uses for ttys 1-6. 7, 8 & 9 are where my X sessions belong, +not on 1 and random others making me guess each time what lives where. Tty1 +especially needs not to be where X goes, because it's where in help forums +everyone dealing with non-working X is told to login to do this and do that +to troubleshoot. + +><i>, however I have seen an +</I>><i> issue where it moves to tty7 after stopping and re-starting +</I>><i> prefdm.service. I have not checked this recently. +</I> +More about what systemd doesn't do that init did. Initab reserved ttys 1-6 +leaving 7+ free for X sessions. Systemd reserves none and doesn't even start +a getty until switch to a tty is made. +-- +"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant +words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) + + Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! + +Felix Miata *** <A HREF="http://fm.no-ip.com/">http://fm.no-ip.com/</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="022430.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub2 vs. Grub Legacy in M3 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="022483.html">[Mageia-dev] musical session locations +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#22447">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#22447">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#22447">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#22447">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |