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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] Grub2 vs. Grub Legacy in M3</H1>
+ <B>Felix Miata</B>
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+<PRE>On 2013-02-02 10:08 (GMT) Barry Jackson composed:
+
+&gt;<i> Felix Miata wrote:
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> Good start:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1-/boot/grub2/i386-pc/core.img in a Grub Legacy stanza succeeds
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> Not good from then on:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1-Grub2 error message due to not finding some png file
+</I>
+&gt;<i> You removed the png by using --no-suggests
+</I>
+One cannot remove what is not present. What I did was block installation of
+packages that the grub2 package does not declare to be required. Grub2 should
+not be configured to show user an error resulting from its own installation
+misconfiguration. That looks like a bug.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> 2-25 item Grub 2.00 menu (grub.cfg:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Mdv/grub.cfg.gx27b-cauldron3-1.txt">http://fm.no-ip.com/Tmp/Linux/Mdv/grub.cfg.gx27b-cauldron3-1.txt</A> ).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> After selecting a selection from a master bootloader, there's no good
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reason to see similar selections as in the previous menu unrelated to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the chosen selection. IOW, when not a master bootloader (i.e.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;chainloaded&quot; via core.img, only Mageia entries attributable to selected
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> filesystem hosting core.img should be in this menu.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> If that is what you want then:-
+</I>&gt;<i> # urpme os-prober
+</I>
+Why was it installed when I did 'urpmi --no-suggests grub2' if it's not
+required?
+
+# urpme os-prober
+To satisfy dependencies, the following 2 packages will be removed...
+ grub2-yada
+ os-prober-yada...
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> 3-Grub2 menu uses same awful spindly-looking font responsible in large
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> part for my distaste for *buntu
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Yes could be a lot better, but it's mainly a choice based on licensing,
+</I>&gt;<i> probably will be improved in the future.
+</I>
+What's wrong with nice legible BIOS native fonts?
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> 4-default menu selection for Cauldron causes this cmdline:
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-prv
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> root=UUID=bbe8a402-5fb1-4247-b372-5bb6cff4e18c ro splash
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> which is nothing like the default Grub Legacy menu stanza's cmdline result:
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> root=LABEL=22cauldrn splash=verbose noresume video=1152x864 vga=794 3
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> obviously caused by Grub2 installation disregarding content of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> pre-existing menu.lst ....
+</I>
+&gt;<i> grub2 does not pay any attention to legacy menu.lst - it's a totally
+</I>&gt;<i> different, unrelated bootloader.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> If you want grub2 to use an existing legacy menu.lst then you can use
+</I>&gt;<i> grub2-menulst2cfg tool to create a grub.cfg from menu.lst.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Usage: grub2-menulst2cfg [INFILE [OUTFILE]]
+</I>
+Nice in theory, but the root device is off by -1. Default menu.lst cmdline
+includes root=LABEL=22cauldrn instead of UUID or device name, which is
+apparently disregarded by grub 2.
+
+menuentry 'Cauldron defkernel' {
+ legacy_kernel '(hd0,22)/boot/vmlinuz' '(hd0,21)/boot/vmlinuz'
+'root=LABEL=22cauldrn' 'splash=verbose' 'noresume' 'video=1152x864' 'vga=794'
+'3' ''
+ legacy_initrd '(hd0,22)/boot/initrd' '(hd0,21)/boot/initrd'
+}
+
+It works when I s/hd0,21/hd0,22/g.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> 5-semi-legible blue on black graphical progress bar instead of normal
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> complement of startup messages when splash=verbose
+</I>
+&gt;<i> The font colours were chosen to complement the background image which
+</I>&gt;<i> you chose not to install.
+</I>
+I saw no fonts in that progress bar. I asked for no progress bar.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> 6-post ESC, startup messages are inappropriately tiny
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Sounds like the same issue I used to have when I was using nvidia
+</I>&gt;<i> graphics with nouveau.
+</I>&gt;<i> Using intel I don't see this.
+</I>
+# lspci | grep VGA
+00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated
+Graphics Controller (rev 02)
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> 7-tty text is too tiny to use (same as startup messages; screen's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> preferred mode 1600x1200 used instead of legible mode 1152x864)
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Probably configurable in /etc/defaults/grub but off hand I don't know
+</I>&gt;<i> the variable name - should be in the maunual somewhere.
+</I>
+grub2-menulst2cfg picked up the ones that work in Grub Legacy (vga=
+((<A HREF="http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt">http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt</A>)) &amp; video=
+((<A HREF="http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/fb/modedb.txt">http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/fb/modedb.txt</A>))), which are kernel
+parameters. They do the same thing loaded via Grub2 as when loaded via Grub
+Legacy.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> 8-KDM is on tty2, the location I reserve for certain class of recurring
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> activities, instead of where expected on tty7
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Dunno - I have never seen this.
+</I>
+Booting with 3 on cmdline and later doing startx or init 5? On current boot I
+used 3 on cmdline, logged in on tty2 &amp; tty3, did startx on tty3, and found X
+is running on tty3. On exiting the X session I did init 5. That put KDM on
+tty1. On openSUSE &amp; Fedora the problem is essentially the same, e.g.:
+<A HREF="https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=768788">https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=768788</A>
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> 9-preferred initial runlevel as evidenced by menu.lst cmdline options
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> was not specified
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Again menu.lst is nothing to do with grub2
+</I>
+Maybe grub2-menulst2cfg should be used instead of grub2-mkconfig when grub2
+is added to a system with grub previously installed.
+--
+&quot;The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
+words are persuasive.&quot; Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)
+
+ Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
+
+Felix Miata *** <A HREF="http://fm.no-ip.com/">http://fm.no-ip.com/</A>
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