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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release pango-1.32.0-2.mga3</H1>
+ <B>Jani V&#228;limaa</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bchangelog%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%20core/release%0A%09pango-1.32.0-2.mga3&In-Reply-To=%3CCAJcezwyuY2uuY4TqfJeGEdEgkfM5Uu1BCzWn0Yv8j2oQXzS%2Bug%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+ <I>Fri Sep 28 12:39:29 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>2012/9/28 Shlomi Fish &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">shlomif at shlomifish.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Hello Jani,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 11:37:36 +0300
+</I>&gt;<i> Jani V&#228;limaa &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jani.valimaa at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/9/27 shlomif &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Name : pango Relocations: (not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; relocatable) Version : 1.32.0
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Vendor: Mageia.Org Release : 2.mga3
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Build Date: Thu Sep 27 22:04:25 2012 Install Date: (not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; installed) Build Host: jonund.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Group : System/Internationalization Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Size : 1062810 License: LGPLv2+
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Signature : (none) Packager : shlomif &lt;shlomif&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; URL : <A HREF="http://www.pango.org/">http://www.pango.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Summary : System for layout and rendering of internationalized
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; text Description :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; A library to handle Unicode strings as well as complex bidirectional
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; or context dependent shaped strings.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; It is the next step on Gtk+ internationalization.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; shlomif &lt;shlomif&gt; 1.32.0-2.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; + Revision: 298828
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; - New release - mkrel 2 - bug fix for crashes.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=684959">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=684959</A> .
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> IMHO new release is pretty obvious and there's no need to mention it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in changelog entry.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually, there is. This way one can find where the release was changed
+</I>&gt;<i> based on &quot;svn log -v&quot;, and temporarily revert the working copy to previous
+</I>&gt;<i> versions. This is because, unfortunately, there's no way to see the patches to
+</I>&gt;<i> the working copy in the logs.
+</I>
+To see when the release was changed we have &quot;Revision: XXXXX&quot; in
+%changelog. You can also use 'mgarepo rpmlog &lt;pkg&gt;' to get the pkg
+changelog from cmd or use svnweb.mageia.org to see the changes more
+closely.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't have strong opinion about URLs in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> changelog, but something fights against them. Haven't checked if
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> they're useless (does rpmdrake support clicking them?).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can always copy and paste them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> IMHO much better %changelog entry would have been:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - add a patch from upstream to fix crashes (bgo#684959)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What the hell is &quot;bgo&quot;? We should be more helpful and explicit than that. See:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+An abbreviation for Bugzilla.Gnome.Org, widely used by other distros
+(mdv/suse/fedora/etcetc) too in their %changelogs. Just like for an
+example are rhbz (redhat bugzilla) and fdo (freedesktop.org) used.
+
+IIRC there is a policy (maybe just a draft) where's mentioned that
+when referring to external bugs the format should be &quot;(XXXX#12345)&quot;
+where XXXX stands for some abbreviation like bgo and numbers stands
+for the bug number.
+
+&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.trustedadvisortoolkit.com/what-do-you-mean-by-wdym/">http://blog.trustedadvisortoolkit.com/what-do-you-mean-by-wdym/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Shlomi Fish
+</I>&gt;<i>
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