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+ <B>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou</B>
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+ <I>Thu Sep 27 11:48:22 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Le 27/09/12 10:04,Colin Guthrie nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+&gt;<i> Just ran into my first practical problem and would like your feedback.
+</I>
+I'm guessing your email is just the first of a long list :-).
+The new RPM group will indeed cause some head scratching for many packages.
+
+&gt;<i> PulseAudio packages used to just be in &quot;Sound&quot; group, but now I have to
+</I>&gt;<i> sub-categorise them as Sound/*. This is fine and I put everything in the
+</I>&gt;<i> Sound/Mixer category for now as this is one of the tasks PA does, mix
+</I>&gt;<i> your audio, but I get the feeling this group was more designed to
+</I>&gt;<i> represent graphical mixer UIs rather than infrastructure level stuff.
+</I>
+RPM groups are for users, not necessarily technical users (technical
+users already know which packages interest them).
+So the main advice to find the category of a given package is:
+
+Where would it make sense for a user browsing through a list to find it?
+
+For PulseAudio, Sound/Mixer is fine.
+
+&gt;<i> Should there be a group that represents this better? e.g.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sound/Plumbing
+</I>&gt;<i> System/Sound
+</I>&gt;<i> Plumbing/Sound
+</I>
+Or Sound/PulseAudio ... :-P
+
+That's the Suse approach, but it does not work. It only multiplies the
+groups, with 3 or 4 subdivision depths (Amusements/Games/Strategy/Turn
+Based ...), with some groups only having a handful of packages. Many of
+the subdivisions make sense from a packaging point of view, but from a
+user point of view it makes browsing too precise. I personally think
+that groups are meant for the exploration by people who don't know what
+they are looking for.
+
+&gt;<i> Or perhaps PA should just go in System/Base?
+</I>
+No. It only drowns it in the crowd of completely unrelated packages.
+
+&gt;<i> (I use the term Plumbing as this is quite common these days as an off
+</I>&gt;<i> shoot perhaps from the Linux Plumbers Conference where the various
+</I>&gt;<i> infrastructural bits of linux are discussed).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thoughts?
+</I>
+No RPM group classification is perfect. There will always be a package
+that does not fit the classification. So we should stick to the &quot;best
+guess&quot; strategy for now.
+
+The new RPM group policy is not completely fixed, but I propose that
+everyone tries to stick with it until Beta 1, at which point we can
+review it and amend the most obvious problems.
+
+Cheers,
+--
+Malo
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