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Manually converting applications to +</I>>>>>><i> explicitely refers to the new location doesn't change its usefulness. +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> Well, if your system can't mount /var for some reason then keeping +</I>>>>><i> things on /run might make recovery easier. +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Then we probably should not refer to systemd directory as +</I>>>><i> /usr/lib/systemd, but as /lib/systemd for exactly the same reason. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I don't really see the comparison here. +</I>><i> The point was: if the canonical path for /usr/lib|/lib directory (which +</I>><i> is actually the same) if the longuest one, why should the canonical path +</I>><i> for the /var/run|/run directory be the shortest one ? +</I> +It's nothing to do with length, it's to do with which one is not a symlink! + +Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but /run serves a purpose and kinda needs +to be on the root partition such that the initrd can mount and use it. + +We cannot really put that path into /var/run and then make /run a +symlink to it because the initrd might not have /var mounted yet. + +Am I misinterpreting the question here? + +>><i> Personally I'm more in favour of using /run directly and adding lint +</I>>><i> rules that cause a build failure if files are packaged in either +</I>>><i> /var/run or /run. +</I>><i> Shipping /var/run or /run files/directory is a different issues, and is +</I>><i> rather related to tmpfs conversion. +</I> +Agreed, but I figured it was related enough to mention :) + +><i> Anyway, I just found out than /usr/lib and /run are the actual +</I>><i> directory, with /lib and /var/run the symlinks. Which makes an argument +</I>><i> of favor of considering the first one as canonical. +</I> +Ahh that might explain things :) Yeah /run is the actual folder, +/var/run is just a compat symlink. The idea being to eventually remove +any reference to /bin or /var/run etc. + +Col + + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +colin(at)mageia.org +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A> +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A> + PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A> + Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="018674.html">[Mageia-dev] /run vs /var/run in configuration files +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="018625.html">[Mageia-dev] /run vs /var/run in configuration files +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#18676">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#18676">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#18676">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#18676">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |