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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] halt and shutdown users: Still needed?</H1>
+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Charles A Edwards at 09/09/12 01:42 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 17:49:57 +0100
+</I>&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This seems like a relic from many years ago and there is no need to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> include such users in this day and age. Should we kill them off?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> They are carry-overs/carry-ons from sysvinit.
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+</I>&gt;<i> Personally, since I both boot to and reboot/shut down from init3,
+</I>&gt;<i> when I actually wish to shutdown the system I use the shutdown command.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And would not keeping both shutdown and halt be useful for system
+</I>&gt;<i> administer, and on any multi user systems where user Are Not
+</I>&gt;<i> wanted/allowed to shutdown/halt the system.
+</I>
+I think you're talking about the halt and shutdown *commands* here, not
+the *users*?
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+The users just have the commands as their shell and you need to give
+them a password and that lets people &quot;login&quot; as those users to then
+halt/shutdown the machine. As you say the commands themeselves serve
+that purpose these days so I think the user definitions can just go.
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+Col
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