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Solbu a écrit : +><i> On Tuesday 30 October 2012 02:44, andre999 wrote: +</I>>><i> If there is some constraint on the redistribution of a package in some +</I>>><i> countries, such as patent claims or encryption technology used or +</I>>><i> whatever, mirrors in affected countries may reasonably want to avoid +</I>>><i> carrying such packages. +</I>>><i> For this reason, we created the "tainted" repos, which are optional for +</I>>><i> official mirrors. +</I>>><i> However we added the additional restriction that packages in tainted +</I>>><i> must also be open source, to satisfy those that don't want to install +</I>>><i> non-free packages. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> If we want to continue this additional restriction, we would have to +</I>>><i> create another set of repos for packages that are both constrained +</I>>><i> (tainted) and non-free, in order to carry such packages. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The problem of including nonfree spftware in tainted, is that it no longer is a Free software repo in countries that don't accept software patents. +</I> +So how is that a problem ? +Nobody is putting a gun to anyone's head to say that they have to +install a package just because it is in tainted. +Nobody can install all packages in core, nor all packages in nonfree. +Maybe one could install all packages in tainted (as there are not very +many), but it is normal to be selective in installing packages. + +Would it help if a user could set a configuration to automatically +control the installation of non-free packages. +Something like "never", "confirm each time", or "always", similar to +what has been proposed for isos ? +Don't forget that packages in the tainted repo have to be downloaded +from the net, unlike packages in core or nonfree, which could be on an +iso. So having an additional control, and using the "never" option +would eliminate any chance of installing a non-free package from tainted. +Wouldn't that work for you ? + +><i> +</I>><i> Nonfree software belongs in a nonfree tree. If we need to create a new repo for them, so be it. That is the right thing to do. +</I>><i> No one said that the right thing to do would be easy. :-)= +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> However there are very few packages that meet this restriction. Also +</I>>><i> the tainted repos contain relatively few packages, compared with core +</I>>><i> and nonfree. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What has that got to do with anything? +</I>><i> Either a package is Free and open source software, or it is not. wether it belongs in the majority or a tiny minority is not the issue. +</I>><i> The issue at stake is our Freedom. +</I> +Good point. +I think that we can all agree that all users have the freedom to not +install specific packages. +What many are asking is the freedom to readily access certain tainted + +non-free packages, while others are worried about the overhead that an +additional repo will bring for a relatively small number of packages. +So one possible compromise is putting all constrained packages in the +tainted repos. + +><i> +</I>><i> I happens to live in a country where the packages in tainted is Free software in every sense of the word. And I don't believe that I'm the only one that is. +</I>><i> Tainted is a convenience for those that live in a country that have software patents, not the otherway around. Don't clutter the water for those of us where tainted still is a Free software repo. +</I>><i> +</I>Firstly, software patents is only one factor that could put a package in +tainted. If you live in a NATO country, certain encryption software was +restricted in the past, and some may still be. So some software in +tainted may be constrained in your country. +My suggestion above for additional configuration options that would +allow automatically ignoring non-free packages in tainted would solve +your problem in practical terms, as well as solving the problem of freer +access to certain software for other users. +Note that I'm not likely to use such packages. I'm essentially a +bystander looking for a reasonable solution. + +-- +André +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="019638.html">[Mageia-dev] rehashing the faac issue +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="019661.html">[Mageia-dev] rehashing the faac issue +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#19643">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#19643">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#19643">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#19643">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |