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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+<PRE>zago a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 12:32:16PM -0400, andre999 wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Olav Vitters a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 02:32:24PM +0200, ovitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Name : gnome-session Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Version : 3.6.0 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Release : 2.mga3 Build Date: Mon Oct 8 14:26:33 2012
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ovitters &lt;ovitters&gt; 3.6.0-2.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 303504
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - add patch to unblacklist llvmpipe
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I've unblacklisted llvmpipe like Fedora has done for a few releases. In
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> some cases I noticed my normal driver not working (reason unknown), so
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in case GNOME is sometimes slow, check if it isn't rendering using
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> llvmpipe.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On my system, running mga2, unblacklisting llvmpipe (so as to use
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> regular gnome3, instead of classic/fallback mode) makes all display
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in regular gnome3 run extremely slow.
+</I>
+This includes the virtual console, or scrolling in gedit, neither of
+which has any need for accelerated display.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> It must be that llvmpipe is used for all display, even when
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> acceleration isn't indicated.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hmm, that is not good. I'll test for a few days, otherwise I'll revert.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What is reported in System Settings &#8594; Details under Graphics? llvmpipe
+</I>&gt;<i> or something else?
+</I>
+It says
+&quot;Carte graphique Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x300)&quot;
+
+Strangely enough, I have now uninstalled llvmpipe and am running gnome3
+in fallback/classic mode.
+But it said the same thing before uninstalling.
+I guess that the message is only set/reset under regular gnome.
+I don't think classic mode was slow with llvmpipe installed, but
+uninstalled it since llvmpipe was in the libllvm-devel package (version
+3.0 on mga2), which is huge (1 G in size).
+The equivalent package on fedora is apparently llvm-devel.
+(I uninstalled it to leave more space on /.)
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> BTW, regular gnome3 might well be called &quot;tablet mode&quot;. A lot of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> extensions have been developped to revert to a display more like
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gnome2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am not using a tablet and suggest you first try it on a tablet.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>My wife has a tablet-like android computer. The default regular gnome3
+has the same appearance (and awkwardness to quickly access applications).
+Sorry, but don't have access to a tablet powerful enough to run gnome3.
+I looked at a number of extensions, and it was surprising how many were
+oriented to bringing back a more gnome2-like (and/or less tablet-like)
+appearance.
+So there are already solutions for most of the appearance problems.
+(And if necessary, I'll modify some to regain a convenient environment.)
+
+I'm surprised at the performance problems of llvmpipe. Although my cpu
+is 32-bit and 64-bit is recommended, it does have the recommended sse2
+function.
+See <A HREF="http://www.mesa3d.org/llvmpipe.html">http://www.mesa3d.org/llvmpipe.html</A>
+
+(It has taken me ages to get gnome3 -- classic -- in a usable state.
+Next to regain access to svn.)
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
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