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+ <B>AL13N</B>
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+ <I>Fri Nov 30 01:20:41 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 30 november 2012 00:47:16 schreef Olivier Blin:
+&gt;<i> AL13N &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op donderdag 29 november 2012 23:39:23 schreef Olivier Blin:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; AL13N &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Op donderdag 29 november 2012 21:14:18 schreef Donald Stewart:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; On 29 November 2012 21:11, AL13N &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; is there a reason you have installed packagekit?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; it's an alternative for package management, (it should run on top of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; urpmi), but i don't think it even works right...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; if i was you, i'd start to get rid of at least all that is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; packagekit
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt; no idea if it'll help your issue though...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; It gets pulled as a suggests to handle various codecs, I think from
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; either the phonon-gstreamer or just gstreamer packages.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; that's too bad, it should be removed imho.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; No, packagekit is a good package manager abstraction that makes possible
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; to share work among distributions.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; It should be improved to work better with urpmi instead.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i have no troubles with that... but if we're trying to fix bugs, maybe we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; can start by stripping what is known to be not working well atm...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i don't think anne is a dev and plans on fixing packagekit integration
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It is not for developers, it is useful for end users.
+</I>
+not when it's known to not have complete integration, imho
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