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If I have to spend any non-trivial +</I>><i> effort to get cinnamon packaged in some way that doesn't break the +</I>><i> system, then I'm going to go insane pushing through the 50-100 other +</I>><i> astrophysics packages that I want to add to Mageia. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Now maybe you all don't want me to add 50-100 professional astrophysics +</I>><i> packages to Mageia. If so, then it's good we had this discussion now :-) +</I>><i> :-) :-) +</I> + +Well, theese 2 things are not really related, are they :) + +We dont mind you add and maintain 50-100 professional astrophysics +packages to Mageia. + +But none of them really depend on cinnamon being available. + +But if you are seriously stating no cinnamon means no other +contributions either, then thats your decision, and your right +to do so. + +As for getting cinnamon into Mageia, you yourself stated you +dont think it will be ready for Mga3. + +So that statement by itself points out that we might be better +off keeping it from official mirrors for now... We can always +review the decision to block cinnamon later after Mga3 is out, +but that will be another discussion at that time... + +But I dont object to storing current work in Mageia SVN. + +><i> Unfortunately, I don't think that's going to work. The trouble is that I'm +</I>><i> doing things out of my "spare time." The people at my day job can +</I>><i> "persuade" me to show up at work every morning and work regular hours +</I>><i> because they hand me $$$$. Everything I do outside of work is for love +</I>><i> and not money, and love is fickle. I'll *try* to do what I can, but I have a +</I>><i> day job and kids, and those come first. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Also, I get annoyed enough trying to climb the corporate ladder in my +</I>><i> day job. I have to play game after game to get myself in a position +</I>><i> where people will listen to me at work. Today, I had to put together +</I>><i> some Powerpoints for a "review committee" at work, and tomorrow +</I>><i> there is going to be a meeting, and another meeting, and e-mail discussion +</I>><i> and requirements documents, and project plans. And in the middle of +</I>><i> all of this, I just sometimes want to scream at the committee. But I don't +</I>><i> since they pay me $$$$$$$ not to tell them what I really think of them. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But you aren''t paying me............ +</I> + +Ok, please stop this $$$$ & "you aren''t paying me" and "my spare time" +BS already. + +Becaus every time you repeat it, you will be taken less and less +seriously, until people finally stop responding. + +Point is... you are in _no way_ "more special" than any other +contributor in Mageia. Most of us are doing this on our free time +and by our free will, spending countless of hours and other resources +to work on it. + +><i> +</I>><i> Now, you may say that this is just "part of life." It may be "part of Mageia" +</I>><i> but it's certainly not part of "open source," and I can put together useful +</I>><i> things elsewhere without having to go through the damn review committee. +</I> +Well, lets speak of "open source" then... + +The "if I dont get this, I wont do that" try to force/blackmail is most +definately not a part of open source... rather the opposite... + +And almost all distributions and larger projects have some kind of +review/stering comittee so make sure a project is heading in a wanted +direction. That does not mean their decision will please everybody. + + +><i> Remember I got these specs by converting Fedora RPM's, and they'll be the +</I>><i> first people I'll go to. If they don't work, then I'll try a dozen +</I>><i> other distributions, +</I>><i> and if none of those work, I'll start my own. +</I>><i> +</I> +Well, thats the beauty of FLOSS... you can do whatever you want with the +code... + +And I guess Fedora wont mind you helping them out & contributing +upstream.. + +It will then be spread and used by other distributions including Mageia :) + +><i> I suppose it would help if someone tries to "sell" me Mageia. What is +</I>><i> Mageia, and why should I volunteer to work on it? +</I>><i> +</I> +Well, we dont need to "sell" it to you. This is FLOSS after all. +Not every distribution suits everybody, that's how it's always been, +and it will be so in the future too... + +Yes, we like people that want to contribute, but we dont like being +blackmailed... + + +><i> The thing is that if it is uncertain whether cinnamon will get into Mageia, +</I>><i> then it's just a waste of time for me to work on it in Mageia. It would be +</I>><i> more useful for me to work on getting it to work with Fedora, Ubuntu, or +</I>><i> Mint, because I know that it's going to be useful there. +</I>><i> +</I> +Well, by all means... if you are basing the rest of your contributions +based on wether you can get cinnamon in or not, then I guess you need +to pick one that suits your needs, we wont stop you. + +There are many great FLOSS projects out there, just pick one (or more) +and be happy... + +-- +Thomas + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="020313.html">[Mageia-dev] Cinnamon +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="020318.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release x11-driver-video-ati-7.0.0-2.mga3 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#20316">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#20316">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#20316">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#20316">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |