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+ <B>Olav Vitters</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Problem with Totem packages?">olav at vitters.nl
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+ <I>Thu Nov 22 09:35:01 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 03:50:31PM +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+&gt;<i> Neither is dragon player nor is totem a good thing in Gnome.
+</I>
+I actually use mplayer. Though solely because I can configure the amount
+of seconds the left+right keys jumps forward/backward.
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+&gt;<i> Both application suffer from the same cause: as soon as we enter the
+</I>&gt;<i> video section we also become victims of the free/non-free/tainted
+</I>&gt;<i> issue. Result: totem as well as dragon player as provided by the free
+</I>&gt;<i> DVD are not able to play any kind of video, unless you install certain
+</I>&gt;<i> plugins. Now the direct issue is, how both applications deal with
+</I>&gt;<i> this. None of both is able to list all necessary plugins to play the
+</I>&gt;<i> wanted video - it's always the dance &quot;a plugin is missing!&quot; - &quot;Which
+</I>&gt;<i> plugin?&quot; then a forum helper tells you about one plugin, you install
+</I>&gt;<i> it, restart totem and - Bang! - it kills you with another &quot;A plugin is
+</I>&gt;<i> missing!&quot;. Do that 3 times and maybe it works for this one video,
+</I>&gt;<i> coming back with the next video format. Same with dragon player.
+</I>
+Ah, that automatic install was always broken the few times I tried it. I
+can ask upstream if it can install everything in one go.
+
+I guess the big difference is:
+ Totem: loads of gstreamer subpackages, some in tainted, some not
+ VLC: 2 packages, one in tainted, one not
+
+In which case the loads of subpackages is actually detrimental.
+
+&gt;<i> It's an upstream issue all right, but why is it not possible to
+</I>&gt;<i> include a function which lists ALL needed plugins, so you can install
+</I>&gt;<i> all of them? Or even better, a meta-package for those who want it all,
+</I>
+I'll at least file a bug upstream.
+
+&gt;<i> which installs all available plugins for video play? I understand the
+</I>&gt;<i> reasons why they can not be installed automatically, but it would be a
+</I>&gt;<i> great step forward if all needed plugins can be installed in ONE step.
+</I>
+Did the installation actually work for you? For me it was always
+completely broken. Maybe that was just a broken packagekit, I haven't
+tried in a while. Also, I installed loads of gstreamer 1.0 subpackages
+and now it finally seems to work.
+
+&gt;<i> Apart from that and not judging by look&amp;feel, vlc really is the best
+</I>&gt;<i> when it comes to playing media.
+</I>
+In 3.8, Totem will be renamed to Videos and it'll be more integrated and
+so on, so I want to focus on making it work. Plus figure out how to
+customize the left/right arrow :)
+
+--
+Regards,
+Olav
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