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Simply install this package, reboot, select the "Mageia 3 +</I>>><i> Upgrade Preparation" entry boot, wait while your FS is converted and +</I>>><i> then perform a urpmi upgrade as you would normally. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I've not specifically tested the upgrade part, only the installation and +</I>>><i> creation of the initrd and bootloader entries in grub. I've also not +</I>>><i> done this on an mga2 machine yet but will do soon enough. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I just wanted to get this package "out there" for anyone wanting to +</I>>><i> update their mga2 machines to mga3 a3 but not wanting to use the installer. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> At present there are a few limitations: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> 1. It requires kernel 3.3.8-2.mga2 to be installed (any flavour should +</I>>><i> work). A specific kernel version is not really 100% necessary but it +</I>>><i> does mean I can add hard requires to the package. This is only desirable +</I>>><i> to prevent the situation where users install this upgrade package but do +</I>>><i> not run it and later remove the kernel used to generate the initrd for +</I>>><i> the bootloader menu item, thus breaking it. Any smarter ideas on how to +</I>>><i> manage this welcome. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cannot you just made dracut/mkinitrd always include it and just +</I>><i> rebuild initrds so +</I>><i> that any kernel with work +</I> +Well yes, this package installs a dracut config snippet that does always +include the module. The rebuilding of the initrd is just that - a +rebuild under the same name as is always used for the normal kernel - +just with the extra convertfs module added. + +However, it requires special kernel command line to trigger the change +and thus the bootloader entry adds the needed params for you. + +I'm not sure it would be a good idea to make any boot silently do the +conversion. + +>><i> 2. If you have /usr in a separate partition and have it mounted ro in +</I>>><i> your fstab, you will have to manually change the fstab to rw for the +</I>>><i> upgrade boot. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Cannot you just automatically remount / rw? +</I> +Yup it would of course be possible, however I'm not sure it's a good +idea. I mean users who have chosen to have both a separate /usr and to +mount it ro by default are undoubtebly in the minority. They likely do +so for very specific reasons. To this end asking them to acknowledge the +change very specifically seems to me like the prudent option, rather +than silently remounting rw for them. + +However, if your first point is conceded, you could argue that the user +is very specifically requesting a rw setup anyway and that, to me, is +likely confirmation enough. + +So I would likely propose keeping the special menu item, but also +changing the convertfs script such that it can be used with a ro /usr +silently without any manual intervention. + + +Col + + + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +colin(at)mageia.org +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A> +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A> + PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A> + Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="020060.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="020062.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: Upgrading from Mageia 2 via urpmi +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#20059">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#20059">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#20059">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#20059">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |