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+ <B>Christian Lohmaier</B>
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+ <I>Thu Nov 1 21:34:03 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hi Wolfgang, *,
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+On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> After reading all arguments again I must confess that I changed my
+</I>&gt;<i> opinion: Being consequent and following our road we need a
+</I>&gt;<i> /tainted-free and a /tainted-nonfree branch.
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+I still think this would be a very user-*un*friendly way to handle it.
+
+You cannot put packages that itself is &quot;free&quot;, but depends on
+&quot;tainted&amp;nonfree&quot; packages into the &quot;free&quot; repo, since the core repos
+need to be self-contained.
+
+The natural approach would then be to put that package into the same
+repo as the packages that fulfill the requirement.
+
+If now you have two tainted repositories, one &quot;free&quot; and one
+&quot;non-free&quot;, you would put the &quot;free with dependencies&quot; package into
+the tainted-free repo. But it itself isn't tainted, so actually
+wouldn't belong in there. But even when you have tainted-free enabled,
+and you try to install the package, you need to enable the
+tainted-nonfree one.
+Or you put it into tainted-nonfree to keep the repos more
+self-contained, but then the distinction is rendered useless, as
+packages end up there for completely different reasons.
+
+And if you have to enable both tainted variants anyway, there is no
+point in having them separate in the first place other than to please
+some bureaucratic nitpicking.
+
+So by creating a tainted-nonfree repo that only a handful of packages
+actually belong into anyway, you create a situation of non-satisfiable
+dependencies that make the distinction pointless from a user-POV.
+
+Much better would then be to create an &quot;ugly&quot; repo (in the spirit of
+gstreamer) that contains the &quot;doesn't fit into the other repos&quot; stuff.
+
+AFAIK only multimedia related stuff falls into tainted-nonfree. And it
+is either you want to use it or not. If you want to use it, the user
+doesn't care whether it is free or nonfree (by whatever definition,
+there isn't the one-and-only definition that everyone agrees with
+anyway). You only might care about whether it is tainted or not (and
+many don't give a damn about software patents even where they could
+apply in theory). It is not like you have a chance in most of these
+cases. Either you use a &quot;100% free but sucks&quot; implementation, or you
+use the &quot;tainted and possibly &quot;nonfree&quot;, but working just fine&quot; one.
+
+ciao
+Christian
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