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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+ <I>Tue May 29 17:54:01 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Jani V&#228;limaa at 29/05/12 16:13 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 29.05.2012 17:38, Sander Lepik wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 29.05.2012 17:14, wally kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Name : task-obsolete Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Version : 3 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Release : 1.mga3 Build Date: Tue May 29
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 15:59:18 2012
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wally &lt;wally&gt; 3-1.mga3:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 249259
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - obsolete old libxfce4menu pkgs
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hmm, since when do we obsolete libs like this?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Since task-obsolete was introduced. It's a way to get rid of old,
+</I>&gt;<i> obsoleted and unused pkgs which are also removed from SVN (moved to
+</I>&gt;<i> /packages/obsolete/).
+</I>
+I wasn't aware we ever did this and I can't think of a good reason to do
+so either so I would prefer this change was reverted (and any other old
+libs in there similarly removed from obsoletion).
+
+There is a difference between no longer shipping something and no longer
+supporting it being installed. If I've compiled my own software against
+any given library I do not want something to remove it automatically and
+break my build. That's the whole point in having library packaging the
+way we do - to allow them to live on mostly forever on an installed
+system. If we no longer support something being installed then using
+task-obsoletes seems wise.
+
+Users are then responsible for removing old library packages they no
+longer want from their system using either the urpme --auto-orphans or
+urpmq --not-available.
+
+Maybe I've misunderstood the intention here, and if so feel free to
+correct me!
+
+Col
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+Colin Guthrie
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