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I +</I>>><i> can't win :p +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thanks for your prompt response Colin - just was inquiring! +</I> +Yeah (and the above was just a joke in case you didn't realise :) + +><i> Maybe "disturbing" was a bit harsh . . . perhaps surprised. +</I> +Yeah I do understand the point. I think longer term the plan is to try +and get rid of as many of these scripts as possible as we migrate to a +far more "standard" userspace. There should be some interesting talks at +the plumbers conference this year on the "boot and init" track. Not that +I'll be able to go. + +><i> Anywho, I think now that drakxservices shows the systemd stuff - it is +</I>><i> very useful. The question I have here is, if "drakxservices" still the +</I>><i> definitive way to control services on Mageia 2 or should one use the +</I>><i> systemd commandline? +</I> +Well there are still a few quirks to it IMO. While it works fine, there +are more statuses and conditions in systemd services than those +drakxserves was designed to handle. As we are supporting both sysvinit +and systemd with it for this release it'll work OK, but only for the +lowest common denominator. In the future we should be able to do more +with drakxservices to make it more systemd specific. This however is +more involved than you may think. The same code is used in the installer +(which does not run systemd) to enable/disable services during install +and on a running system. For the latter, using dbus to talk to systemd +would be the most sensible approach to write a GUI, but for the former, +we have to inspect the files manually which is ugly. For mga3 I have +plans to try and make the installer use systemd and then use +systemd-nspawn to run a virtual systemd instance to do the +enable/disable during install. This then means we can use the same +approach both during install and on a running system (in theory at least!) + +In the mean time you can also use systemadm from the systemd-ui package +if you prefer a GUI. + +HTHs + +Col + + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +colin(at)mageia.org +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A> +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A> + PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A> + Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="015357.html">[Mageia-dev] What's with all the "fedora" named services in Drakxservice?? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="015354.html">[Mageia-dev] MCC only comes up the second time ? +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#15362">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#15362">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#15362">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#15362">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |