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+ <B>Anssi Hannula</B>
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+ <I>Sat May 5 19:26:03 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>05.05.2012 19:42, Colin Guthrie kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and David Walser at 05/05/12 17:15 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This is why the kernel will automatically does the sync for you every 12
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> minutes when an ntp daemon is running. This is the recommended method.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> How does the kernel know when an ntp daemon is running in user space? Does it work with chrony, or only ntpd?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know the internals. It works with either chrony or ntpd.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So unless we have a proper frame of reference, (user set time, ntp
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> protocol time) then there should be no manual sync.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Does the kernel then sync the hwclock when you change the time manually, including with rdate or ntpdate?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It won't do it automatically when doing that. It's really up to whatever
+</I>&gt;<i> tool changes the date/time to do that as needed I think.
+</I>
+And how could such a tool know if RTC should be set to UTC or local time?
+
+.. or are we expected to patch them to parse /etc/sysconfig/clock for that?
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+Well, I guess the tool could detect that by looking at the RTC/sysclock
+offset as well, though seems a bit hacky...
+
+What is the expected &quot;right way&quot; to do it, if systemd policy is to not
+sync on shutdown?
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+Anssi Hannula
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