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(no confirmation before proceeding to selected packages installation)</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Are%20you%20sure%3F%20%28no%20confirmation%20before%20proceeding%0A%20to%20selected%20packages%20installation%29&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2Bh4nj7F4GaKAb0eYx7WP2UmpLdnzHPaRR_UuiFcNANTHRYFNQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Are you sure? (no confirmation before proceeding to selected packages installation)">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri May 4 17:19:26 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="015288.html">[Mageia-dev] Are you sure? (no confirmation before proceeding to selected packages installation) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="015291.html">[Mageia-dev] Are you sure? 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Does this bother +</I>>><i> >> no +</I>>><i> >> one else? +</I>>><i> > +</I>>><i> > Too late to report. +</I>>><i> > When people will cease to do ala Gael tests aka just before the final? +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Well, only too late for mga2, but it can get on wishlist for mga3 +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> -- +</I>>><i> Thomas +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Another case is when you install in the existing partitions and in the +</I>><i> partitioning screen you choose the partitions, /, /home, etc, and you have +</I>><i> checked in the checkbox a partition to be formatted. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It seems very logical to me that in this step a confirmation is more than +</I>><i> usefull. +</I>><i> Before a 2-3 years there was a brainstorm in mandriva and i had proposed the +</I>><i> usage of confirmation dialogues. I cannot find the link now, but the answers +</I>><i> that i got was like 'you click on OK so you have to be sure', 'no needed, +</I>><i> useless feature' etc. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If there will be a brainstorm in mageia, i would like to try to propose it +</I>><i> again. +</I> +Do you think you will get a different result? Look at Microsoft. +People were so annoyed by all these "Are you sure" popups that +comedians started to refer to these popups in their standup sessions +("Do you really want to use the brake pedal?"). AFAIR there hasn't +been such a popup at the situations you pointed to as long as +Mandrake/Mandriva existed. I haven't heard anybody complaining about +this (until today). +About the selection screens: + +For me the first selection screen (KDE - Gnome - Custom) serves the +new user who wants to get on with the installation without any +interactive stuff he would not know how to handle it. So the screen +presents 2 options which will get him a standard system with one +click. Everybody else is surely able to understand the word "Custom" +which opens the door to everything else. The next screen offers a +package selection which allows for installation of whole groups (or +non-installation). This same screen opens the door to the minimal +installation options (if you deselect all package groups). It also +shows the option "Individual package selection". + +To me this is a logical procedure (one step following the selection of +the previous step). + +Of course Mageia could put something like "Clicking OK will start the +installation" below the KDE and Gnome options or something similar. + +About the partitioning: + +What exactly do you miss there (you have seen the "expert" button?) ? + +IMHO there is nothing missing or at presented at the wrong state of +the installation procedure. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="015288.html">[Mageia-dev] Are you sure? (no confirmation before proceeding to selected packages installation) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="015291.html">[Mageia-dev] Are you sure? 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