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+ <B>Anssi Hannula</B>
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+<PRE>03.05.2012 13:50, Colin Guthrie kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and zezinho at 03/05/12 11:33 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Em 03-05-2012 00:00, Colin Guthrie escreveu:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ping? Any revised opinions?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry, but I feel this is not needed for MGA2. In fact, systemd has
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> changed the shutdown behaviour. The good patch would be to make him sync
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the hwclock at shutdown, as we have no bugs because of this sysvinit
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> behaviour.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There are real problems related to this as described upstream. Without a
+</I>&gt;<i> proper ntp implementation doing the time sync we have *no* idea that
+</I>&gt;<i> what we are doing is correct. If this is a dual boot system we could be
+</I>&gt;<i> clobbering the RTC without any knowledge that what we are doing is
+</I>&gt;<i> vaguely valid. So no, I will not entertain adding the sync hwclock stuff
+</I>&gt;<i> back. That is broken.
+</I>
+I'm not sure I understand. Why wouldn't we have any idea if what we are
+doing is correct? If the system time has been changed, surely RTC should
+be changed as well?
+
+You make it sound like there is some situation where system time could
+be entirely wrong. Is there such a situation? I'm not seeing it right now.
+
+I wonder if this change had something to do with the fact that my laptop
+had some problems moving to DST (on cauldron), and I had to change the
+time manually (IIRC it switched to DST first but then the change was
+lost later)... but I guess that could've been something else.
+
+--
+Anssi Hannula
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